Please stop. You’re confusing things by talking about cycling and QT etc.
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Medic755
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Ultimately my main concern is if this is still safe to use with what I have learned from this series. Do not let the skimmer stop running and put an air stone in for safety.
or do I try something like vibrant that allows for the use of carbon in conjunction
or do I try something like vibrant that allows for the use of carbon in conjunction
Great advice as usual. Gtinnel....yes slowly....side note congrats on your teams appearance in final 4. Wow, awesome. As A guy from Charleston WV, supporting Michigan, you might relate to why does a guy from Ontario Canada ( season tix holder) support WVU football lol?!? Go get the first game in a few weeks....I think they can do it best of luck. Sorry to hijack OP.
Vibrant plus carbon is safer. What are you trying to fix exactly?
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Hahaha it’s ok!
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With working heavily due to mandation I’ve had some really heavy diatoms in the sand a black stringy gunk which I’m not sure about and other algae all over the rockwork. I’ve been scrubbing and scrubbing and filtering and can’t get a head of it all so I decided to try this to help me beat everything back.
I'd put the air stone in for certain, maybe a couple,can leave the skimmer....I'd avoid the vibrant.
I would personally try to increase export through heavy skimming and a turf scrubber. Or phosphate reactor and carbon dosing etc. In my experience chemical or additive treatments are the riskiest.
Vibrant is not safer, you can read about here:
www.reef2reef.com
I should have known better, being lions and all, some fish react more negatively to these tank cleaners.
In your situation, it is obviously to do with the dino x. The skimmer was providing the extra oxygenation needed, and when you shut it off, that's what did it. I would do series of water changes to get it out and bring the ph back to normal, If you test ph, you'll likely see a drop as well, unless it has already bounced back.
Is Vibrant trying to kill my lions
I've had these lions for over 7 years, there's also another one in this tank for 8 years. I had let my 210g go and it was riddled with algae, so i clean it up and dosed Vibrant, I was amazed. After 3 weeks the tank was so clean I have to start feeding my tangs greens again. I was so impressed I...
www.reef2reef.com
In your situation, it is obviously to do with the dino x. The skimmer was providing the extra oxygenation needed, and when you shut it off, that's what did it. I would do series of water changes to get it out and bring the ph back to normal, If you test ph, you'll likely see a drop as well, unless it has already bounced back.
Miami Reef
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I think you’re best solution is to simply accept Dinoa for now. They will go away on their own if you follow proactive husbandry tips
Quick chemical fixes usually temporarily solve issues, but they cause other issues which can be worse than the Dino’s. And the original issues will almost always come back.
Quick chemical fixes usually temporarily solve issues, but they cause other issues which can be worse than the Dino’s. And the original issues will almost always come back.
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That’s the weird thing, I just tested phos and nitrate and they were 0.02 and 0.25 respectively. My thought was to eliminate the algae and such and then get the nutrients back in line bc they obviously aren’t that low in reality
Thanks good to know.Vibrant is not safer, you can read about here:
I should have known better, being lions and all, some fish react more negatively to these tank cleaners.Is Vibrant trying to kill my lions
I've had these lions for over 7 years, there's also another one in this tank for 8 years. I had let my 210g go and it was riddled with algae, so i clean it up and dosed Vibrant, I was amazed. After 3 weeks the tank was so clean I have to start feeding my tangs greens again. I was so impressed I...
In your situation, it is obviously to do with the dino x. The skimmer was providing the extra oxygenation needed, and when you shut it off, that's what did it. I would do series of water changes to get it out and bring the ph back to normal, If you test ph, you'll likely see a drop as well, unless it has already bounced back.
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I did see a drop. Not a huge drop as I am running a CO2 scrubber but definitely an abnormal drop that usually does not happenVibrant is not safer, you can read about here:
I should have known better, being lions and all, some fish react more negatively to these tank cleaners.Is Vibrant trying to kill my lions
I've had these lions for over 7 years, there's also another one in this tank for 8 years. I had let my 210g go and it was riddled with algae, so i clean it up and dosed Vibrant, I was amazed. After 3 weeks the tank was so clean I have to start feeding my tangs greens again. I was so impressed I...
In your situation, it is obviously to do with the dino x. The skimmer was providing the extra oxygenation needed, and when you shut it off, that's what did it. I would do series of water changes to get it out and bring the ph back to normal, If you test ph, you'll likely see a drop as well, unless it has already bounced back.
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I've used Dino X and it never killed a fish. Are certain you got the dosage correct? You have to know pretty much the exact volume of water in your tank which can be tricky.
It's not kind to inverts with even a slight overdose.
You dosed at night right, not when the lights were on?
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I dosed for
I could not find the displacement calculator so I shot low on the recommended dose. Can always add more but can’t take any back. Maybe I did overdose but it could only be by 5 ml at most?
I think I did. I saw no invert deaths. I estimated my volume to be 190 gallons with displacement. It’s a 180 tank but there’s only about 160 gallons to the water line. There’s 20 gallons in the sump and then about ten or 20 gallons in the skimmer, plumbing, reactor.
I could not find the displacement calculator so I shot low on the recommended dose. Can always add more but can’t take any back. Maybe I did overdose but it could only be by 5 ml at most?
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Sounds like you did it right. .
I don't think it was Dino X, but perhaps a lot of Dinos died and dumped at the same time.
I leave the skimmer running without a cup and just let it overflow back into the sump.
You may never know unfortunately.
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Isn’t the purpose of the skimmer to remove the toxins? So overflowing into the sump would defeat that yes?
Miami Reef
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Skimmers remove organics and increase oxygen. Not much effect for toxins.
No. It's not. It's to remove organics and aerate....
^^^what he said.
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