Help please!! ASAP!!

[IceNein]

How long has this tank been cycled? The rock looks pretty white.

 

[stephenxbog]

How long has this tank been cycled? The rock looks pretty white.

The tank itself is cycled but the rock is brand new, I added some to the tank after about 6 months.

 

[stephenxbog]

What are ypur parameters, ammonia, etc. A quick change in levels can cause this or something bacterial maybe?

Water parameters are good all the way across the board. I just need to know what to do

 

[Jay Hemdal]

He’s the same as yesterday but my butterfly that was with him was fine last night and dead this morning what looked like his scales were falling off.

Scales falling off with a butterflyfish is often a symptom of Uronema:

Uronema / Red Band Disease - Hemdal

Red Band Syndrome in Marine Fishes: Caused by the Protozoan; Uronema sp. Jay Hemdal Introduction: This moderately common disease of certain species of marine fish is so often misdiagnosed that most aquarists apply incorrect treatment methods...

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It could also be a bacterial disease or flukes (and those would align with the cloudy eyes on the lionfish).

 

[stephenxbog]

Scales falling off with a butterflyfish is often a symptom of Uronema:

Uronema / Red Band Disease - Hemdal

Red Band Syndrome in Marine Fishes: Caused by the Protozoan; Uronema sp. Jay Hemdal Introduction: This moderately common disease of certain species of marine fish is so often misdiagnosed that most aquarists apply incorrect treatment methods...

www.reef2reef.com

It could also be a bacterial disease or flukes (and those would align with the cloudy eyes on the lionfish).

Thank you buddy!

 

[stephenxbog]

He’s the same as yesterday but my butterfly that was with him was fine last night and dead this morning what looked like his scales were falling off.

Scales falling off with a butterflyfish is often a symptom of Uronema:

Uronema / Red Band Disease - Hemdal

Red Band Syndrome in Marine Fishes: Caused by the Protozoan; Uronema sp. Jay Hemdal Introduction: This moderately common disease of certain species of marine fish is so often misdiagnosed that most aquarists apply incorrect treatment methods...

www.reef2reef.com

It could also be a bacterial disease or flukes (and those would align with the cloudy eyes on the lionfish).

How do I treat it?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

How do I treat it?

Internal Uronema doesn’t have an effective treatment.

External bacterial infections are best treated in a hospital tank with a broad spectrum, gram negative antibiotic like neomycin.

Flukes can be treated in the display tank with praziquantel:

 

[stephenxbog]

How do I treat it?

Internal Uronema doesn’t have an effective treatment.

External bacterial infections are best treated in a hospital tank with a broad spectrum, gram negative antibiotic like neomycin.

Flukes can be treated in the display tank with praziquantel:

The vet gave me some amoxicillin capsules, will that help?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

The vet gave me some amoxicillin capsules, will that help?

They might, but I doubt it. Amox is primarily used against gram positive bacteria, and with fish, it is dosed orally, not in the water. Most external bacterial infections of marine fish are gram negative.

 

[stephenxbog]

Update: lionfish died, to prevent diseases in the future of this particular tank, I vacuumed out all of the sand and water, then wiped the whole tank inside and outside with bleach concentrate, soaked all of the equipment including the heater and powerhead in bleach water for several days as well as the liverock. Is this good enough or am I missing something?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Update: lionfish died, to prevent diseases in the future of this particular tank, I vacuumed out all of the sand and water, then wiped the whole tank inside and outside with bleach concentrate, soaked all of the equipment including the heater and powerhead in bleach water for several days as well as the liverock. Is this good enough or am I missing something?

Depends on the bleach concentration - needs to be above 500 ppm for 24 hours. Rinse well and when you think it’s rinsed enough, rinse some more! I use a DPD pool chlorine test to ensure all traces of bleach is gone (no pink color develops)

 

[stephenxbog]

Update: lionfish died, to prevent diseases in the future of this particular tank, I vacuumed out all of the sand and water, then wiped the whole tank inside and outside with bleach concentrate, soaked all of the equipment including the heater and powerhead in bleach water for several days as well as the liverock. Is this good enough or am I missing something?

Depends on the bleach concentration - needs to be above 500 ppm for 24 hours. Rinse well and when you think it’s rinsed enough, rinse some more! I use a DPD pool chlorine test to ensure all traces of bleach is gone (no pink color develops)

I used Clorox concentrate. Unscented.

 

[stephenxbog]

Update: lionfish died, to prevent diseases in the future of this particular tank, I vacuumed out all of the sand and water, then wiped the whole tank inside and outside with bleach concentrate, soaked all of the equipment including the heater and powerhead in bleach water for several days as well as the liverock. Is this good enough or am I missing something?

Depends on the bleach concentration - needs to be above 500 ppm for 24 hours. Rinse well and when you think it’s rinsed enough, rinse some more! I use a DPD pool chlorine test to ensure all traces of bleach is gone (no pink color develops)

I used Clorox concentrate. Unscented.

100 percent bleach, no water added.

 

[Baylott224]

100 percent? That's alot can silicone handle that?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

100 percent bleach, no water added.

That’s a lot stronger than I’ve ever used. A 1:10 bleach/water solution is the highest I’ve used in aquariums. It shouldnt hurt anything (except some metals) but you need to rinse it very thoroughly.

 

[stephenxbog]

100 percent? That's alot can silicone handle that?

lol I don’t know, we are fixing to find out

 

[stephenxbog]

What size tank? How long has it been up and running? What kind of rock?. I put some rock in a 20 gallon once and almost killed all the fish in the tank. Guessing the rock composite stole all the oxygen. I even soaked the rock in rodi for a week then saltwater for a week.

It’s calcium carbonate rock from a seller on eBay.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

What size tank? How long has it been up and running? What kind of rock?. I put some rock in a 20 gallon once and almost killed all the fish in the tank. Guessing the rock composite stole all the oxygen. I even soaked the rock in rodi for a week then saltwater for a week.

Just curious why you think rocks take up O2?

What sort of rocks are you referring to?

 

[Spot On]

What size tank? How long has it been up and running? What kind of rock?. I put some rock in a 20 gallon once and almost killed all the fish in the tank. Guessing the rock composite stole all the oxygen. I even soaked the rock in rodi for a week then saltwater for a week.

Just curious why you think rocks take up O2?

What sort of rocks are you referring to?

We added a rock to our 20 gallon...only thing we did. 2 hours later we checked on it and our long nose hawkfish was dead and the 2 clowns struggling. Were the only 3 fish in the tank and only added that 1 rock. Were able to save the clowns. So the rock depleted the 02 or introduced something. We had the rock sitting in a bucket of saltwater for about 3 weeks before introducing it. Sooo

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

We added a rock to our 20 gallon...only thing we did. 2 hours later we checked on it and our long nose hawkfish was dead and the 2 clowns struggling. Were the only 3 fish in the tank and only added that 1 rock. Were able to save the clowns. So the rock depleted the 02 or introduced something. We had the rock sitting in a bucket of saltwater for about 3 weeks before introducing it. Sooo

I am not questioning that something happened, but I also do not see how a rock rapidly consumes O2. No natural mineral rock will do that.

What sort of rock was it?