Help Torch is showing its skeleton

[Kasperfloj]

So this is my euphyllia glabrescens 24k, i have had this for about 3 weeks.
Yesterday when nighttime rolled out, I saw the skeleton (I think), that You can see in the first three images, where im holding it in my hand.
I turned the lights on so You are able to see it more clear.
But 20 minuts after or so, in my tank, I saw that the flesh is now extending over that (still had the lights off).
I really dont know what is going on, I have now moved it to a place with less flow, hoping that it will recover.
What is it? Should i worry? and lastly should I do a dip like this one?

 

[Gumbies R Us]

I would move it off the sandbed and a little higher up. Also, moving coral can cause it to stress out even more. Try to move it very minimally.

What are your current parameters and what are you using to test them?

Light and PAR level?

Flow of your tank?

 

[Kasperfloj]

I would move it off the sandbed and a little higher up. Also, moving coral can cause it to stress out even more. Try to move it very minimally.

What are your current parameters and what are you using to test them?

Light and PAR level?

Flow of your tank?

Coral was sitting up higher when i realised that I could see the skeleton.
Im using salifert to test:
Mg: 1350
Dkh: 9
Cal: 460
Do you want others?

Also my lights are red sea reef led 50's got 2, haven't had a par meter, but im running both at 50% intensity on blues, and 45% intensity on whites, and manual said that it was 500 par on 100% intensity, on the surface, so estimate is 250 at surface, and my tank isn't that tall. Tank dimensions is 35,5 x 17,7 x 13,7 inches (LxWxH), so i think its not getting too much light.

Flow is hard for me, since im a new reefer, and I got two ai nero 3's and one surface skimmer, that I dont know the GPH of it, and you can see how i have it set up in the picture.

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

googling these lights, they are 40 watt lights, no way they will put out par of 500, the manufacturer always exaggerates. I would suggest to rent a par meter or else your flying blind.

It looks like a brand new tank, torch is a bit more intermediary level IMO, it prefers a more mature tank.

I see your clowns swimming up top and the water surface is too flat, makes me think low oxygen, and corals needs oxygen too. The surface should be agitated to help with gas exchange, you should see ripples and small bubbles at the surface. Salt water doesn't hold oxygen as well as freshwater so we have to purposely oxygenate the water.

I like the aquascape!

 

[Kasperfloj]

googling these lights, they are 40 watt lights, no way they will put out par of 500, the manufacturer always exaggerates. I would suggest to rent a par meter or else your flying blind.

It looks like a brand new tank, torch is a bit more intermediary level IMO, it prefers a more mature tank.

I see your clowns swimming up top and the water surface is too flat, makes me think low oxygen, and corals needs oxygen too. The surface should be agitated to help with gas exchange, you should see ripples and small bubbles at the surface. Salt water doesn't hold oxygen as well as freshwater so we have to purposely oxygenate the water.

I like the aquascape!

Thanks I will try and see if i can rent one, but i live in Denmark, and almost nobody has one.

And yes the tank is kinda new, have had it for 2,5 months now.

Regarding the clowns, they think there is food as soon as I get close, so they always swim at the top once im close. But thanks, i'll make sure there is more surface agitation.

Lastly Thanks, took some time, but its what I settled with. One thing I regret tho, is that the rock on the right is very close to the surface, so i dont really have space for sps. Didn't think it through.

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

not too high in my opinion, I like tall aquascape, it fills out the tank better IMO

 

[Kasperfloj]

I would move it off the sandbed and a little higher up. Also, moving coral can cause it to stress out even more. Try to move it very minimally.

What are your current parameters and what are you using to test them?

Light and PAR level?

Flow of your tank?

So i moved it up a bit, and this is the flow here.

 

[VintageReefer]

Normal for torch to withdraw at night

Make sure you feed it 1-2x a week for optimal health. Turn flow down and slowly give a couple pieces of mysis or flake or small pellet.

 

[Kasperfloj]

Normal for torch to withdraw at night

Make sure you feed it 1-2x a week for optimal health. Turn flow down and slowly give a couple pieces of mysis or flake or small pellet.

Also normal for it to fully withdraw like in the pictures? For me it seems a little excessive.

 

[VintageReefer]

Also normal for it to fully withdraw like in the pictures? For me it seems a little excessive.

Yes depends on the type of torch

Also will do this during splitting process or when performing biological functions

 

[VintageReefer]

Here’s one of mine. Tank lights are just coming on

Looks rough but in a hour it will be the torch on far right

 

[moosevandyke]

Coral was sitting up higher when i realised that I could see the skeleton.
Im using salifert to test:
Mg: 1350
Dkh: 9
Cal: 460
Do you want others?

Also my lights are red sea reef led 50's got 2, haven't had a par meter, but im running both at 50% intensity on blues, and 45% intensity on whites, and manual said that it was 500 par on 100% intensity, on the surface, so estimate is 250 at surface, and my tank isn't that tall. Tank dimensions is 35,5 x 17,7 x 13,7 inches (LxWxH), so i think its not getting too much light.

Flow is hard for me, since im a new reefer, and I got two ai nero 3's and one surface skimmer, that I dont know the GPH of it, and you can see how i have it set up in the picture.

What are your po4 and no3. Torches cans be finicky even in very mature systems talking 2 years plus.

 

[Kasperfloj]

What are your po4 and no3. Torches cans be finicky even in very mature systems talking 2 years plus.

Im having a really hard time reading my po4, i use salifert, and in the photo i even made the higher sensitivity solution, but still not able to read it. Also answer has to be divided by 2.
And my nitrates are about 3-5.

 

[BryanM]

Im having a really hard time reading my po4, i use salifert, and in the photo i even made the higher sensitivity solution, but still not able to read it. Also answer has to be divided by 2.
And my nitrates are about 3-5.

So I really don't see anything wrong with your torch.

To keep it that way, there's been a lot of good advice.

1). You really probably need a par meter, but I'm fairly confident that your lights are too low. This will effectively starve the torch.
2). While not necessary, as Vintage pointed out, feeding them mysis or something 1-2x a week really does help them grow more than just light alone.
3). Gotta stop moving it around. When I move mine they do not get back to normal for at least a day, sometimes as long as a week.
4). You really need more nitrates and detectable phosphates.... You're gonna have to focus on this, as corals need both to survive, as well as either nutrients bottomed out will cause algae issues.

 

[moosevandyke]

So I really don't see anything wrong with your torch.

To keep it that way, there's been a lot of good advice.

1). You really probably need a par meter, but I'm fairly confident that your lights are too low. This will effectively starve the torch.
2). While not necessary, as Vintage pointed out, feeding them mysis or something 1-2x a week really does help them grow more than just light alone.
3). Gotta stop moving it around. When I move mine they do not get back to normal for at least a day, sometimes as long as a week.
4). You really need more nitrates and detectable phosphates.... You're gonna have to focus on this, as corals need both to survive, as well as either nutrients bottomed out will cause algae issues.

Yep try run phosphate around 05-.1 and nitrate 2.5-5. Torches and new tanks are hard. I personally find them harder the acros:) also if you can try find ones that have been circulating in hobby for a year plus. The maricultured pieces are 50/50

 

[Kasperfloj]

Yep try run phosphate around 05-.1 and nitrate 2.5-5. Torches and new tanks are hard. I personally find them harder the acros:) also if you can try find ones that have been circulating in hobby for a year plus. The maricultured pieces are 50/50

How would i go about adding / getting phosphates up? im already semi overfeeding, and i just haven't seen a rise in phosphates.

 

[BryanM]

How would i go about adding / getting phosphates up? im already semi overfeeding, and i just haven't seen a rise in phosphates.

Dose NeoPhos.

But be careful... I was lax on testing when I did this and WAY over did it. So dose it, but test every day, when you get detectible phos, stop, keep testing (and feeding), and see if it stabilzes.