Help!!!

[greenhorn reefer]

I think he's going to die!!!

 

[greenhorn reefer]

 

[bknapp]

@greenhorn reefer we're really going to need more info to give you help.

Date of intro, was it QT'd, tank mates, parameters, oxygen levels, tell us all you can.

 

[greenhorn reefer]

Petco fish... Has ich bad need help over the phone

 

[bknapp]

You're really going to need to set up a QT/hospital tank and medicate the fish to cure it of the ich. And on top of that you're going to need to leave your display fallow for at minimum 76 days.

 

[bknapp]

From @Humblefish article:

Symptoms - Ich looks like salt or sugar-like “sprinkles” on the body or fins, usually more “here & there” as opposed to the fish being completely covered in them (see Velvet). Other symptoms include scratching on rocks/sand, head twitching and heavy breathing.

Treatment options - Copper, Chloroquine phosphate, tank transfer method, or hyposalinity.

 

[greenhorn reefer]

It's on it's last fin. I bought him regardless, I don't think they were going to save him. I have everything I need but wanted to know a few extra details.

 

[bknapp]

Such as? If you don't ask nobody can answer.

 

[cowboy]

@Russ265 would be a good one to ask about this I know he had a pretty successful treatment of a purple from petco.

 

[Humblefish]

Petco + "ich bad" usually means the fish actually has velvet.

This explains how to treat: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/#post-2499437

 

[Russ265]

@Russ265 would be a good one to ask about this I know he had a pretty successful treatment of a purple from petco.

and humblefish is the one i turn to for fish disease i cannot dagnose.

 

[greenhorn reefer]

He has white spots, shredded fins, one cloudy eye and is curled up on the bottom of the tank.

 

[Russ265]

He has white spots, shredded fins, one cloudy eye and is curled up on the bottom of the tank.

his chances arent too good then. (imo) although maybe @Humblefish can correct me.

id copper a spare tank and run some kanaplex.

i will say this though... cloudy eye, torn fins, and white spots are generally treatable if the fish can make it.

if he is curled up in a ball in the corner. he is usually waiting to pass

 

[greenhorn reefer]

this is what I have. I was expecting my first fish to be healthy and was going to treat prophylactic. I couldn't leave this sick fish.

 

[greenhorn reefer]

What am I missing. What can I combine? I don't know of anything open where I can get more.

 

[Russ265]

this is what I have. I was expecting my first fish to be healthy and was going to treat prophylactic. I couldn't leave this sick fish.

you can try a desperate effort to fw dip him... but i never saw one come back that late in the game.

just my .02

if "i" had a fish like that... he would be euthanized with clove oil. - not what anyone wants to hear

 

[greenhorn reefer]

Yeah, I don't want him to suffer but I can't be the executioner. I believe I have done what I can, I will have to wait and watch this play out.

 

[greenhorn reefer]

@Russ265
He seems to still have fight. Every once and a while, he will try to right himself. I added the copper and hopefully he can make it. Can I add the prazi or the API for bacterial infections at the same time? How much will copper affect my notifications?

 

[Russ265]

@Russ265
He seems to still have fight. Every once and a while, he will try to right himself. I added the copper and hopefully he can make it. Can I add the prazi or the API for bacterial infections at the same time? How much will copper affect my notifications?

im hesitant giving you advice for a fish that far gone.

if it was thrown in my lap i would throw some methylne blue in a freshwater bath for 5 minutes and then observe after he was returned to his coppered tank. - this in itself will have a 50:50 shot of killing him based on your photos and description. for tangs not that bad a shape, ive never had a loss.

if he didnt change within the hour and was on his side he would be euthanized.

medication isnt instaneous

 

[melypr1985]

@Russ265
He seems to still have fight. Every once and a while, he will try to right himself. I added the copper and hopefully he can make it. Can I add the prazi or the API for bacterial infections at the same time? How much will copper affect my notifications?

Get the copper up to therapeutic levels withing 24 hours, not all at once as that can kill the fish by itself. A fresh water dip could help, though you never know when they are this sick. I've never lost a fish in a fresh water dip that wasn't already beyond saving. You can do prazipro with the copper, but I would wait a couple days and see if he makes it that long. Combining meds this early could be too much for him to handle right now.