Hydros maven

[newnoobreefer]

looking at buying a automatic tester for my 50g reef tank. Was anticipating the launch of the hydros maven but with no insight on the delay i was wondering if the neptune trident is still a viable option for automatic testing, i want to start keeping sps such as acros and want my water to be as stable as possible.

 

[dakoop]

I love my trident

 

[newnoobreefer]

I love my trident

Haha thanks, ive been hearing that hydros is the new way and was just contemplating but i see no automatic testers

 

[Dr. D]

Do a search here and you’ll hear WAY more than you want to know about the Maven schedule, including many passionate opinions on the matter.

 

[newnoobreefer]

Do a search here and you’ll hear WAY more than you want to know about the Maven schedule, including many passionate opinions on the matter.

Elaborate im confused Good or bad ?

 

[TheLegendaryBarlowe072]

The Apex and trident have been around awhile and have plenty of satisfied customers. But you’ll need an Apex unit, trident and trident Np to get all of the same features of just the Maven. Brand new that’s a big investment. (But there’s a big used market). The Maven is a standalone aquarium controller. If it’s all you want it’s all you need. But if you end up wanting other hydros devices they all work together in a collective for further redundancy. But as Maven hasn’t been released it’s unproven. And there haven’t been any updates since the delay was announced. It could come out the week after you buy a trident or 3 years from now.

If you want something now Apex is your option.

Also to use some of Apexes more robust features you may need to know simple coding or search tutorials. And routine maintenance requires disassembling your devices.

Newest isn’t always best. We’ll have to see after it’s eventual release if Maven even lives up to the hype.

 

[Dr. D]

Elaborate im confused Good or bad ?

Hydros Maven is Delayed

I’ve been eagerly awaiting adding the Maven to my Hydros ecosystem, but just came across this article. No specific release date has been provided which gives me worry that it might be a very long while before we see it...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[TheLegendaryBarlowe072]

Elaborate im confused Good or bad ?

Both. It’s heated like a PlayStation Xbox debate. Fan boys and detractors on both side lol.

 

[areefer01]

Both. It’s heated like a PlayStation Xbox debate. Fan boys and detractors on both side lol.

Well the onus is on the hobbyist to put aside their bias hat and just speak to their experiences. Obvious maven is only in the hands of those beta testing it if that is still going on. As you noted - the debate rages on /shrug

OP - you state 'start keeping sps such as acros and want my water to be as stable as possible' which leads me to believe that you are just getting started. Or the display is (frags vs colony). Not knocking experience level but one doesn't really need automated testing. That is a quality of life thing, not a necessity. Sounds like I'm lecturing but not trying to, sorry. Hanna Alkalinity manual test can be done in a couple of minutes. Phosphate, nitrate, Hanna checkers in a couple of minutes as well. Calcium - pick one that is easy to use. In fact all I tested for was Alkalinity but we all have personal preferences.

Point being is the automation is optional. Several to choose from and you will get a lot of varying opinions on them. Mine included. May be easier, and cheaper (not knocking budget), to just get alkalinity, nitrate, phosphate checkers and do a manual test every couple of days and add the data to excel. Within a couple of weeks you will see the daily consumption and trends which is all you need really.

 

[dakoop]

Maven=Mindstream

 

[newnoobreefer]

The Apex and trident have been around awhile and have plenty of satisfied customers. But you’ll need an Apex unit, trident and trident Np to get all of the same features of just the Maven. Brand new that’s a big investment. (But there’s a big used market). The Maven is a standalone aquarium controller. If it’s all you want it’s all you need. But if you end up wanting other hydros devices they all work together in a collective for further redundancy. But as Maven hasn’t been released it’s unproven. And there haven’t been any updates since the delay was announced. It could come out the week after you buy a trident or 3 years from now.

If you want something now Apex is your option.

Also to use some of Apexes more robust features you may need to know simple coding or search tutorials. And routine maintenance requires disassembling your devices.

Newest isn’t always best. We’ll have to see after it’s eventual release if Maven even lives up to the hype.

 

[newnoobreefer]

Would this suffice instead of buying a expensive apex system i just need my water tested i have no dosing pumps st the moment everything is hand dosed

 

[TheLegendaryBarlowe072]

Maven=Mindstream

Huh?

 

[TheLegendaryBarlowe072]

Would this suffice instead of buying a expensive apex system i just need my water tested i have no dosing pumps st the moment everything is hand dosed

That would work to test Cal/Mg and Alk. And it would function simply as an aquarium monitor. It could be a controller if you add on an energy bar $300

If you want to test nitrate and phosphate you also need Trident NP. $649

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

Well the onus is on the hobbyist to put aside their bias hat and just speak to their experiences. Obvious maven is only in the hands of those beta testing it if that is still going on. As you noted - the debate rages on /shrug

OP - you state 'start keeping sps such as acros and want my water to be as stable as possible' which leads me to believe that you are just getting started. Or the display is (frags vs colony). Not knocking experience level but one doesn't really need automated testing. That is a quality of life thing, not a necessity. Sounds like I'm lecturing but not trying to, sorry. Hanna Alkalinity manual test can be done in a couple of minutes. Phosphate, nitrate, Hanna checkers in a couple of minutes as well. Calcium - pick one that is easy to use. In fact all I tested for was Alkalinity but we all have personal preferences.

Point being is the automation is optional. Several to choose from and you will get a lot of varying opinions on them. Mine included. May be easier, and cheaper (not knocking budget), to just get alkalinity, nitrate, phosphate checkers and do a manual test every couple of days and add the data to excel. Within a couple of weeks you will see the daily consumption and trends which is all you need really.

@newnoobreefer

What areefer01 has to say is some good advice. Understanding that the point being, don't get carried away. Having an automated testers isn't going to make your experience any better or worse.

I definitely agree newer isn't always better. Apex has been around a long time and has lots of experience. The big difference between hydros and apex is the ability to forego cloud services and still have connection. If neptune systems went out of business tomorrow, owners can still access their controller.

I'm definitely not advocating for one controller over another. But it's worth noting.

If you're wanting a controller for the purpose of eventually utilizing an automated tester, the apex Jr that you linked doesn't allow a direct connection to a trident. You would need a way to connect the 1link cable (on the trident) via a module. At the very least you would need a 1link module, or what I would recommend is an eb832.

 

[newnoobreefer]

Well the onus is on the hobbyist to put aside their bias hat and just speak to their experiences. Obvious maven is only in the hands of those beta testing it if that is still going on. As you noted - the debate rages on /shrug

OP - you state 'start keeping sps such as acros and want my water to be as stable as possible' which leads me to believe that you are just getting started. Or the display is (frags vs colony). Not knocking experience level but one doesn't really need automated testing. That is a quality of life thing, not a necessity. Sounds like I'm lecturing but not trying to, sorry. Hanna Alkalinity manual test can be done in a couple of minutes. Phosphate, nitrate, Hanna checkers in a couple of minutes as well. Calcium - pick one that is easy to use. In fact all I tested for was Alkalinity but we all have personal preferences.

Point being is the automation is optional. Several to choose from and you will get a lot of varying opinions on them. Mine included. May be easier, and cheaper (not knocking budget), to just get alkalinity, nitrate, phosphate checkers and do a manual test every couple of days and add the data to excel. Within a couple of weeks you will see the daily consumption and trends which is all you need really.

Yea ur right lol, been reef keeping for about a year but work and school can be hard to test every day so im really needing automation in my reef as i do everything myself, including topping my water off every morning and night

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

Huh?

I think the suggestion is that although mindstream had a product, it still was considered vaporwear and it never came to market.

 

[TheLegendaryBarlowe072]

I think the suggestion is that although mindstream had a product, it still was considered vaporwear and it never came to market.

Oh I was unfamiliar with mindstream, and when I quickly googled I got some sort of Buddhist philosophy and I couldn’t make the connection

 

[BeanAnimal]

I think the suggestion is that although mindstream had a product, it still was considered vaporwear and it never came to market.

Ohh you mean he wasn't pointing out that both were given silly names?

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

Ohh you mean he wasn't pointing out that both were given silly names?

Haha, trademarks are hard to come by these days. Perhaps... he was pointing out that they both start with M??

In all seriousness, maven does sort of insist upon itself.