Ich?

[joro]

Every fish is a little different, but for some the longer they're in copper the tougher it gets. :(

So should I start removing it until she starts eating again? As mentioned, she is still eating a little - primarily nori from a clip - but just not as much as she normally has.

 

[melypr1985]

So should I start removing it until she starts eating again? As mentioned, she is still eating a little - primarily nori from a clip - but just not as much as she normally has.

as long as she's eating some, I would stay the course. Your half way there

 

[Humblefish]

as long as she's eating some, I would stay the course. Your half way there

+1

 

[joro]

Just a quick update, she's back to eating normally and the spot pictured in the previous post has started to fade. All the other fish are perfect, so is it safe to assume it may have just been a spot where she brushed up against something? She does hang around the heather every once and a while so maybe that was the problem? :confused:

 

[Humblefish]

Just a quick update, she's back to eating normally and the spot pictured in the previous post has started to fade. All the other fish are perfect, so is it safe to assume it may have just been a spot where she brushed up against something? She does hang around the heather every once and a while so maybe that was the problem? :confused:

I would say its more likely she got snagged on the edge of one of those PVC elbows. The edges are not always smooth, and fish are always coming & going from inside of them. But if she got herself wedged in-between the heater and the glass, that could have done it as well as she struggled to free herself. Lost a Hippo Tang one time to that in QT. :(

 

[joro]

I would say its more likely she got snagged on the edge of one of those PVC elbows. The edges are not always smooth, and fish are always coming & going from inside of them. But if she got herself wedged in-between the heater and the glass, that could have done it as well as she struggled to free herself. Lost a Hippo Tang one time to that in QT. :(

Yeah, I tried to sand down the sharp spots on the PVC elbows when we first set yup the QT - I even got cut on one them :eek: - but may have missed some of the inside corridors. In any case, I'm glad she's eating again and I'll keep an eye on her if any other erratic behavior occurs. Thank you!

 

[joro]

So 30 days of the Copper Treatment is coming up next Sunday and I'm just trying to make sure I have everything needed to start pulling the copper back out. I have a bag of Cuprisorb and a Poly Filter on the way. I don't think I can fit the cuprisorb in the HOB filter, so is it ok to just leave that at the bottom of the tank? Also, how long does it normally take to remove CopperSafe from a 20G?

 

[Humblefish]

So 30 days of the Copper Treatment is coming up next Sunday and I'm just trying to make sure I have everything needed to start pulling the copper back out. I have a bag of Cuprisorb and a Poly Filter on the way. I don't think I can fit the cuprisorb in the HOB filter, so is it ok to just leave that at the bottom of the tank? Also, how long does it normally take to remove CopperSafe from a 20G?

The Cuprisorb should pull most of it out in about 24 hrs, and that is good enough for the observational period.

 

[joro]

The Cuprisorb should pull most of it out in about 24 hrs, and that is good enough for the observational period.

So are you saying 24 hours after I put the cuprisorb in they can move to DT or do I need to hold them longer for observation?

 

[Humblefish]

So are you saying 24 hours after I put the cuprisorb in they can move to DT or do I need to hold them longer for observation?

I would observe for at least a couple of weeks to be sure. You can deworm (using Prazipro) during this time, if you haven't done so already.

 

[joro]

The Cuprisorb should pull most of it out in about 24 hrs, and that is good enough for the observational period.

So I've had the cuprisorb running for 24+ hours in the HOB filter and the Copper Readings remain unchanged - close to 2.0. What should I do? o_O

 

[Robink]

I would run some carbon in the filter.

 

[Humblefish]

So I've had the cuprisorb running for 24+ hours in the HOB filter and the Copper Readings remain unchanged - close to 2.0. What should I do? o_O

Do you have a reactor you can put it in? The water is most likely just going around it in the HOB.

 

[joro]

Do you have a reactor you can put it in? The water is most likely just going around it in the HOB.

I don't unfortunately, could I just put in the bottom of tank maybe?

 

[Humblefish]

I don't unfortunately, could I just put in the bottom of tank maybe?

It needs flow running thru it to absorb the copper. Using a HOB works but its a painstakingly slow process. Running carbon/cuprisorb in a reactor makes for the most efficient use. You can use just a cheap Phosban Reactor to get the job done: https://www.amazon.com/Two-Little-Fishies-ATLPBR150-PhosBan/dp/B0006JM0KI

 

[melypr1985]

Could it be placed on top of an air stone? Have the bubbles drive water through it? I dont think that would be as effective as using an HOB filter or a reactor, but in a pinch it could work right?

 

[joro]

It needs flow running thru it to absorb the copper. Using a HOB works but its a painstakingly slow process. Running carbon/cuprisorb in a reactor makes for the most efficient use. You can use just a cheap Phosban Reactor to get the job done: https://www.amazon.com/Two-Little-Fishies-ATLPBR150-PhosBan/dp/B0006JM0KI

Assuming I went the reactor route, a few questions:

1. How long would it take to remove Copper?
2. The curpisorb I have right now is already in a little bag which treats 60G apparently. Do I need to buy more?
3. What type of carbon should I mix with the cuprisborb?
4. Also, assuming I went with the suggested reactor, how much of each should I be using?

Also, if I didn't go the reactor route, how long would you expect it to take given it's in the HOB already?

Thanks,

 

[Humblefish]

Could it be placed on top of an air stone? Have the bubbles drive water through it? I dont think that would be as effective as using an HOB filter or a reactor, but in a pinch it could work right?

That would technically work, but very inefficiently. ;)

Assuming I went the reactor route, a few questions:

1. How long would it take to remove Copper?
2. The curpisorb I have right now is already in a little bag which treats 60G apparently. Do I need to buy more?
3. What type of carbon should I mix with the cuprisborb?
4. Also, assuming I went with the suggested reactor, how much of each should I be using?
5. Also, if I didn't go the reactor route, how long would you expect it to take given it's in the HOB already?

1. Assuming you use the proper amount, 24 hrs.
2. Once Cuprisorb is exhausted it turns dark blue. You can either toss it or regenerate it using muriatic acid.
3. Rox 0.8 (BRS sells it).
4. I would only run Cuprisorb; it works better at removing copper.
5. No telling. If you'd rather not use a reactor and stick with your HOB for removing Cu, I would use this instead of Cuprisorb: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=4335

 

[4FordFamily]

It took cuprisorb longer to remove coppersafe than cupramine for certain.

Giant water changes and cuprisorb, poly filters, and carbon did it for me. Took a couple weeks and a few large water changes

 

[joro]

That would technically work, but very inefficiently. ;)

So would any reactor work or just the one specified. I found the following which seems to include all the comments (reactor, plumbing, and pump) for just a little more than what you linked to. I'm trying to make this as easy as possible if you can't tell ;)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...d-3035-4a40-b691-0eefb1a18396&pf_rd_i=desktop

Also, in regards to the Cuprisorb should I buy bulk variety or just throw the pre-packaged bag in there?