I’m not well versed in torch ids but I do know torches can fade quite a bit and then recover. I know someone who constantly buys purple torches for $40 a head and sometimes in a few months they are vibrant show pieces.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
That's look like a garden variety torch found at any lfs. I think some of the folks over zealously defending sellers they have no personal or financial connection too are simply justifying their own purchases. I suspect a few of the others are the ones selling this over priced nonsense.Yea i suspected it was fishy. He still hasnt sent me a pic of the (dragon soul) corals he has left. Instead he just sent a 100$ refund.. which is fine. I paid 150 plus 50 shipping.
So i didnt lose out on anything.. its still a torch i dont have.. I can see it has the patterns of a dragon soul.. i see faint stripes of gold ( hard to see in pic)
Look at this pic. Does this look like a dragon soul to you lol ?
Ahhh....Todd's Torch....is he even reefing anymore?I’m not a huge freak about lineage but in many cases it seems as if the color of the original names piece is better than those that don’t have lineage. I notice this a lot with Rastas and Mickey D’s. The originals just seem way brighter. Another example is Todd’s torch. Yeah there’s plenty of bright green torches with blue tips but Todd’s is on another level
Honestly not sure. When I first emptied the hobby Todd’s Torch was the torch to have...at least in my area. Then after a year or two the demand fizzled off because all of the torches suddenly disappeared. It made one more tiny rebound and then hadn’t heard anything about it sinceAhhh....Todd's Torch....is he even reefing anymore?
That's look like a garden variety torch found at any lfs. I think some of the folks over zealously defending sellers they have no personal or financial connection too are simply justifying their own purchases. I suspect a few of the others are the ones selling this over priced nonsense.
With that said, if one guy wants to sell a $20 frag for $250, and some other guy wants to buy it... have at it!
I actually 1000% disagree with your last part.Another issue in trying to discuss subtle differences in "similar" corals is that the same coral could look quite different in a different tank for a variety of reasons. As in, a LOT different. So saying, the polyps on the "real" one (generic example) are blue instead of purple, or it gets "pink" tips instead of white, etc. are not reliable, even if you have "comparable" setups/same lights, etc.
Likewise, I have taken "different" corals with "verified lineage" from different shops/promoters and grown them out for a year or more and ended up with literally the "exact" same coral.
Lineage is almost always a marketing gimmick. It is very rare indeed that a true genetic freak specimen comes through that didn't have 1000 other maricultured chunks brought in over the same period. Great example is the way the importers were holding the rainbow tenuis' when the prices were sky high a few years back. I saw a photo from a wholesaler with hundreds of them in the same trough. Now we have multiple named pieces with lineage from different trendy stores and a whole lot of other stores across the country and world have the exact same piece.
You should buy based on the seller's actual colony, as it presently exists. Both for health and vigor reasons, and also to verify, definitively, that you are seeing "exactly" what you are buying. Buying a 0.75" frag from a guy cutting a 2" frag to flip and make a return doesn't really tell either of you what you "have" because the guy he got it from could be totally full of BS too.
Also, don't hate the prices or the marking gimmick/photoshop promoter-guys. If someone is willing to pay it; that's their problem. I'm all for it, unless of course someone is being actually dishonest and not just using regular marketing puffery.
If you think Todd’s torch is on another level check out Jeff’s Blue Tip Jade torch! That’s about 3 levels above Todd’s if you ask me love my Jade!I’m not a huge freak about lineage but in many cases it seems as if the color of the original names piece is better than those that don’t have lineage. I notice this a lot with Rastas and Mickey D’s. The originals just seem way brighter. Another example is Todd’s torch. Yeah there’s plenty of bright green torches with blue tips but Todd’s is on another level
Yours looks a little bleached out. Give it time. I’m sure it will look more like the first. I’ve bought a lot of torch corals that under first impression in my tank I was mad about. After a month-2 they start showing their true coloration.I actually 1000% disagree with your last part.
Corals yes can look different under diff lights people have.. but PURPOSELY altering pictures much like Jason fox does actually is lying and very misleading. It should be a crime to do that honestly.
Imagine me selling something anything but photochopping everything on it to make it seem different. Youd be ticked and want your money back.
How is that any different than this.
Look at these two corals. Seem totally different dont they ??
Well they are the same dang coral.. this is the one i bought for 150$... and look at it without misleading filters. It was heavily modified to show all gold.. instead its FRACKING teal blue.. thats utter BS !!!
This person should be barred from selling corals on the forums