Klir Filter Review.

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PatReef good job. this brings it to a new level.
here is an an idea. what if we have it automatically roll every 4 hours and have the sensor just as a back up. Just an idea

can you post pictures of the sensor please
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Do you have a picture of where you mounted the optical sensor? I’m really trying to use my Klir for my tank but the optical sensor that comes with it sits too high up in my sump
Is the optical sensor on this picture....
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Great idea:). I set it up through Apex as well. One question. I’m not Apex expert. I do not know what it is LEVEL KLIR VIRTUAL OUTPUT (If error Level Klir Then off)
 

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Great idea:). I set it up through Apex as well. One question. I’m not Apex expert. I do not know what it is LEVEL KLIR VIRTUAL OUTPUT (If error Level Klir Then off)
In apex you can use some vitual output. In this case I use them to activate the ''Emailalarm'' or disable some component like pump or other. Here is the programming of my Klir. I will try to explain as best as possible my prog. I may have complicated my life but I prefer to be more careful and avoid problems

Klir = optical sensor ... open = low level, close= over level

FMM 24volt output'' Klir_motor''
... For run motor

OSC 000:00/000:02/000:58 Then ON .... put motor on every minute but
If Klir OPEN Then OFF .... off if level low (under optical sensor). previous line never true with low level
Defer 000:04 Then OFF ..... When on, motor always run for 4 sec.
When On > 000:08 Then OFF .... If the engine runs for more than 8 seconds, this output turn off. With this function I activate the email alarm. (see below : error Klir_motor) and prevent wasting a whole roll!
If Error Level_Klir Then OFF ..... stop / never on if error with ''level_klir''


Virtual output '' Level_Klir
..... For catching level problem, optical sensor problem in closed position or motor problem. 2 level of alarm

Set OFF
If Klir CLOSED Then ON
Defer 003:00 Then ON .... I reduce de speed 50% of my return pump. At this speed I'm sure I will not overflow into the filter compartment. And give me (when it's posssible) some time to resolve problem. activate the email alarm
When On > 010:00 Then OFF .... if this, I have a major problem, broken engine, broken optical, roll jam. Stop return pump. Activate the email alarm


Vitual output ''Fleece_klir'' ... To detect a broken fleece or empty roll or optical sensor defect in open position

If Klir OPEN Then OFF
Defer 360:00 Then OFF ....


''email alarm''
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If Error Level_Klir Then ON
If Error Klire_motor Then ON
If Error Fleece_Klir Then ON
If Output Level_Klir = ON Then ON
 

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Super. Thank you for explanation:)

I’m try it without a virtual sensor;). I connect the motor/engine directly into the apex power supply. Apex optical sensor connect to FMM and set email alarm: If Sensor KLIR Closed Then ON

I hope it will work well. Only the motor/engine is spinning slowly and I think more time will be needed for rolling (20-30 seconds).

 

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1- Remove the Klire motor.
2 - Adapt the new motor on the support plate, see my previous post. I use MECANO srew to fix it!
3- Adapt the black core of the soiled fleece for the engine shaft which is a little bigger. (I will reuse this core for the next change of fleece roll)
4- Buy ''Neptune Systems DC24 to Bare Wire Cable'' or DYI and connect it to the motor, check the direction of rotation before final connection.
5- Use a optical level sensor for a point in Apex program.

If you have more specific questions, do not hesitate

Neptune prog:
Klir = optical sensor
Level_Klir = vitual output to manage overflow if optical sensor(Klir) are on > 2 min.

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Thanks for this! Quick question, what's a MECANO screw? I've Googled but there are a few different results.
 

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Just bought a used DI4 and I'm ready to chuck it. Now I see why it was being sold! Lol.

dang roll snags so much, but I'll try and file down some edges tomorrow.
 

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I use this engine now. Stronger than the previous and easy to install. I have never had a stuck engine with this one.
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I thought I'd share, I had an issue with the motor not being able to turn the roll. I opened a ticket and Coral-Vue replaced the motor assembly under warranty, great service! The new motor is significantly larger than the original motor and doesn't seem to have any issue turning the roll. It is a 12v 11RPM motor.

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I as well received the new motor from Coralvue. Works much better. I also added a large PC fan on top of my Klir and it works great keeping the paper dry at the top of the roller.
 

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I thought I'd share, I had an issue with the motor not being able to turn the roll. I opened a ticket and Coral-Vue replaced the motor assembly under warranty, great service! The new motor is significantly larger than the original motor and doesn't seem to have any issue turning the roll. It is a 12v 11RPM motor.

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I have this new motor and it works fine. My problem is my sump design Trigger 39, does not lend itself to the optic sensor for motor activation. I want to bypass the optic and program my apex to turn roll periodically. I will determine that frequency later. For now my question would be can I connect motor to Neptune bare wireDC24 ?
 

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I have this new motor and it works fine. My problem is my sump design Trigger 39, does not lend itself to the optic sensor for motor activation. I want to bypass the optic and program my apex to turn roll periodically. I will determine that frequency later. For now my question would be can I connect motor to Neptune bare wireDC24 ?
You'd either need a different motor or a step-down converter. The Klir motor is 12 volt and the Neptune DC24 is 24 volt.
 

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I’d like to purchase klir 4”, will coralvue send me a new motor or are they resisting ? I assume the new unit shipping do not come with a new motor ?
 

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I’d like to purchase klir 4”, will coralvue send me a new motor or are they resisting ? I assume the new unit shipping do not come with a new motor ?
I am confident they will send you the updated motor if it didn't come with your new unit. I had no issues getting one.
 
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