Kole Tang

justingraham · Jul 25, 2016

domination2580 said:
All fish need to be treated in case i didnt express that already. Melypr thanks for reminding me. I think i expressed that but not sure

Yea I figured that and I beleive u have said it which is going to stink o well better then nothing

domination2580 · Jul 25, 2016

justingraham said:
Yea I figured that and I beleive u have said it which is going to stink o well better then nothing

Better to heal the fish than lose them

justingraham · Jul 25, 2016

domination2580 said:
Better to heal the fish than lose them

Absolutely I agree I was just thinking about how to catch them all question if I can get the Kole tang eating on the copper treatment can I then transfer him to the main tank and do hypo on the main tank? In my situation this would be the easiest method if not would a 30 be ok for two clowns a Kole tang and a bi color blenny? I rather them stay in there home the 90 and take the corals out. But i will do whatever it takes to save them all so thanks again

domination2580 · Jul 25, 2016

justingraham said:
Absolutely I agree I was just thinking about how to catch them all question if I can get the Kole tang eating on the copper treatment can I then transfer him to the main tank and do hypo on the main tank? In my situation this would be the easiest method if not would a 30 be ok for two clowns a Kole tang and a bi color blenny? I rather them stay in there home the 90 and take the corals out. But i will do whatever it takes to save them all so thanks again

Its better to do in qt. If u dise copper in dt the live rock will absorb the copper making the levels unsteady and will bleach copper later down the road. 30 should be fine for a qt sonce it is only a temporary home for them. And there are some cases where hypos has worled but melpyr, humblefish and i dont like the hypo method. To many inconsistencies that could go wrong with it.

justingraham · Jul 25, 2016

domination2580 said:
Its better to do in qt. If u dise copper in dt the live rock will absorb the copper making the levels unsteady and will bleach copper later down the road. 30 should be fine for a qt sonce it is only a temporary home for them. And there are some cases where hypos has worled but melpyr, humblefish and i dont like the hypo method. To many inconsistencies that could go wrong with it.

No I kno that I was saying to stop the copper treatment and switch t to hypo for the DT ooo ok u don't like doing hypo I see whys that if I might ask what incasistancies? and for 76 days that's temporary for us but that would be ok for a fish I'm not trying to argue with u just trying to understand cause I would think in a 30 gallon there would be more inconsistencies. I mean ur way seems to be working with the copper he looks way better as of now I'm just trying to understand

justingraham · Jul 25, 2016

And should I pick up cupramine?

domination2580 · Jul 25, 2016

justingraham said:
No I kno that I was saying to stop the copper treatment and switch t to hypo for the DT ooo ok u don't like doing hypo I see whys that if I might ask what incasistancies? and for 76 days that's temporary for us but that would be ok for a fish I'm not trying to argue with u just trying to understand cause I would think in a 30 gallon there would be more inconsistencies. I mean ur way seems to be working with the copper he looks way better as of now I'm just trying to understand

When you have rocks in a tank and add copper the rocks absorb the copper so that takes the copper out of the water column which is then less than theareputic levels in the water column that treats the fish. And as far as hypo, you need to male sure theres absolutely no evaporation. Even then it doesnt work all the time. Humblefish has tried the hypo way and didnt end well.

domination2580 · Jul 25, 2016

justingraham said:
No I kno that I was saying to stop the copper treatment and switch t to hypo for the DT ooo ok u don't like doing hypo I see whys that if I might ask what incasistancies? and for 76 days that's temporary for us but that would be ok for a fish I'm not trying to argue with u just trying to understand cause I would think in a 30 gallon there would be more inconsistencies. I mean ur way seems to be working with the copper he looks way better as of now I'm just trying to understand

In a 30 gallon yeah not as big not as much room to swim but the copper will stay in the water column given that there are no rocks in the qt. Also in a big tank water evaporates faster than in a small tank.

justingraham · Jul 25, 2016

domination2580 said:
In a 30 gallon yeah not as big not as much room to swim but the copper will stay in the water column given that there are no rocks in the qt. Also in a big tank water evaporates faster than in a small tank.

Right and I have an ato on the 90 I'm going the copper route in the thirty and I understand about the rocks and everything thank u again

domination2580 · Jul 25, 2016

Sounds good sir no problem

justingraham · Jul 25, 2016

domination2580 said:
Sounds good sir no problem

Ok so my plan is to set up the 30 gallon tonight with the ten gallon tank water ten gallons of new water and then I will do a ten gallon water change on my display tank and use that water. Can I or better of should I dip him again tonight?
If I get the other fish out of the tank tonight (it will be three am when I get home and I'm not trying to wake up the neighborhood or the wifey might be able to get the clowns but the blenny I highly doubt) should I dip them as well before I put them in qt?
And lastly what else should I be medicating along with the copper? Should I be running a skimmer with copper? What should I use as the power head? If I use this power head in the copper will I no longer be able to use it in my display tank cause it will leach? I've never done copper so this is all new to me. Thanks again honestly thank u u guys helped my fish survive another day

domination2580 · Jul 25, 2016

justingraham said:
Ok so my plan is to set up the 30 gallon tonight with the ten gallon tank water ten gallons of new water and then I will do a ten gallon water change on my display tank and use that water. Can I or better of should I dip him again tonight?
If I get the other fish out of the tank tonight (it will be three am when I get home and I'm not trying to wake up the neighborhood or the wifey might be able to get the clowns but the blenny I highly doubt) should I dip them as well before I put them in qt?
And lastly what else should I be medicating along with the copper? Should I be running a skimmer with copper? What should I use as the power head? If I use this power head in the copper will I no longer be able to use it in my display tank cause it will leach? I've never done copper so this is all new to me. Thanks again honestly thank u u guys helped my fish survive another day

Thhat should work. As far as skimmer goes i personaly dont. Powerhead i think you are correct. Not to use it in dt after.

domination2580 · Jul 25, 2016

If the tang look ok enough to take a fw dip i would to give him relief. As far as the others, they should be fine if they havent shown signs of ich or velvet yet.

domination2580 · Jul 25, 2016

Just copper as far as meds go

domination2580 · Jul 25, 2016

But i would make sure to get some vitamin food additives to add to the food so they can keep up with the immunse system. I use selcon

domination2580 · Jul 25, 2016

@melypr1985. What are your practices on skimmer and powerhead?

melypr1985 · Jul 25, 2016

justingraham said:
I was saying to stop the copper treatment and switch t to hypo for the DT

Hypo wont treat velvet. so copper is the best course of action here

melypr1985 · Jul 25, 2016

No skimmer. Just an HOB filter, power head OR air stone is fine, heater and ammonia alert badge. You'll definitely need to take ALL the fish out.... especially if this is velvet. You dont want to put your fish back in just to have them reinfected.

cj in sac ca · Jul 25, 2016

Any chance issue could be with food being contaminated with something or possibly stuck in throat?

justingraham · Jul 25, 2016

Darn and ok about the power head that truly stinks

cj in sac ca said:
Any chance issue could be with food being contaminated with something or possibly stuck in throat?

what do u mean? I do beleive in the garlic extract there could possibly be nori floating around in it and I didn't put it on the fridge after opening for like two weeks. as for the other food I use Frozen mysis and brand new flake food. At one point I had old flake food don't know if that could be contaminated just think old.