Let Me ID Your Wrasse!

[cpschult]

Id please and thank you!

 

[Maritimer]

Royal or Angulated flasher wrasse, Paracheilinus angulatus. One of my favorites!

~Bruce

 

[evolved]

Royal or Angulated flasher wrasse, Paracheilinus angulatus. One of my favorites!

~Bruce

Yup!

 

[cpschult]

Would it do okay with a mccoskers or are they to closely related? 70g tank. Absolutely gorgeous colors on him!!

 

[evolved]

Would it do okay with a mccoskers or are they to closely related? 70g tank. Absolutely gorgeous colors on him!!

Should be fine, but I would definitely use an acclimation box to make sure.

 

[ZoaCollector]

Female Cirrhilabrus sp 'kwazulu'

Female Brunneus look like this too. Is there a way to differentiate the two?

 

[ZoaCollector]

These are all wrasses in my QT that I received this week from ZoaCollector from his Vanuatu order. I know the Hooded on the right is the Efate variant. Can anybody confirm whether the Hooded on the left is a Tanna or Coral Sea variant? Thanks!

It came from Tanna Howard [emoji16] guaranteed

 

[evolved]

Female Brunneus look like this too. Is there a way to differentiate the two?

The skeletal shape of the head.

 

[cpschult]

Should be fine, but I would definitely use an acclimation box to make sure.

Ended up pulling the trigger. Thanks for all your advice today!!

 

[Paul87]

I'm dissapointed in myself for not getting a photo of this guy while in social acclimation, but supposedly this is a pennant wrasse (C. joanallenae). There isn't a lot of black on the fins but it is present. So is the yellow line where the red meets the white. These are some terrible cell photos, but hopefully I can get a positive ID on this guy. Social acclimation went very well though my pintail flared up on him and he did the same right back. Hopefully these guys play it cool, just displays so far.

 

[evolved]

Maybe? The parts we would need to see to make the determination between joanallenae and rubriventralis are not visible.

 

[Paul87]

Maybe? The parts we would need to see to make the determination between joanallenae and rubriventralis are not visible.

What parts would that be? I'm gonna try to get some better photos later.

 

[evolved]

What parts would that be? I'm gonna try to get some better photos later.

The fins!

 

[Paul87]

The fins!

Right! Lol. That will be tricky but I'll post it if I can get it.

 

[Paul87]

Well after countless times if trying and failing to get a photo when he flashed his fins, I went with video. He would stay hidden when I tried with my cam, so had to go with my cell. Video quality is lacking, but I did manage to get a couple very short clips of him flashing. Probably not good enough but it's today's attempt. Lol.


Also I may add that the spot by the caudal fin is a wound from a rock falling and pinching him upon capture at the LFS.

 

[evolved]

It's still indeterminate for me; need to clearly see the dorsal and pelvic fins.

 

[Paul87]

It's still indeterminate for me; need to clearly see the dorsal and pelvic fins.

OK I figured but thanks. I'll continue to try tomorrow. What exactly are you looking for to determine it if you don't mind me asking?

So far this is the best I found by Lemon TYK on Reef Builder's.

"Cirrhilabrus joanallenae is very similar to Cirrhilabrus rubriventralis in terms of coloration. The two can be separated easily based on the following. 1) In C. joanallenae, the pelvic fins are always jet-black versus red in C. rubriventralis. 2) The interface between the red dorsum and white ventral body is variably traced in yellow for C. joanallenae, but this feature is never present in C. rubriventralis. 3) In C. joanallenae, the caudal peduncle region is heavily dusted in black, whilst in C. rubriventralis this region is usually clean. The most reliable diagnostic feature still lies in the differences in pelvic fin coloration. All other phenotypic aspects of this fish remains similar to that of C. rubriventralis."

The fins aren't jet black, but are dark. The yellow line is present. I never realized how many variations on rubriventralis there are!

 

[Paul87]

Managed to get this blur as the lights where going out. The flash brightened it up. It looks like C. rubriventralis from the Red Sea in this article.
https://reefbuilders.com/2015/11/05/33-fairy-wrasses-rubriventralis-group/

 

[eatbreakfast]

Managed to get this blur as the lights where going out. The flash brightened it up. It looks like C. rubriventralis from the Red Sea in this article.
https://reefbuilders.com/2015/11/05/33-fairy-wrasses-rubriventralis-group/

It's C. rubeus. Rubeus is the new name for what used to commonly be known as rubriventralis. The true rubriventralis is limited to the Red Sea and seldom enters the trade.

 

[Paul87]

It's C. rubeus. Rubeus is the new name for what used to commonly be known as rubriventralis. The true rubriventralis is limited to the Red Sea and seldom enters the trade.

Thanks, that's what I was starting to think. The main thing that was throwing me off was the yellow line that divides the red and white. Looked like night and day almost to the socials (rubeus) in the tank next to it that where really bright and $25 cheaper. I'm guessing just a different location variation that was confused and labeled pennant wrasse.