Live Rock From Local Beach/Waterfront?

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  1. sneeqie

    sneeqie New Member

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    Hello all, new here.

    I looked around and couldn't find a definitive answer on the forums so far (maybe I overlooked something, forgive me in advance) but I was wondering if I were to take a few rocks from the local waterfront what I would need to do in order to clean them/disinfect them before using them in my own tank?

    I say clean/disinfect because I imagine without looking it wouldn't be wise to just take a piece of live rock out of nature and put it directly into my tank.

    PS - Forgive me as well if this isn't proper etiquette in the hobby world, I am still new and haven't had much time to research as much as I would like. Hope everyone is having a wonderful Holiday season thus far!

    -Sneeqie
     

  2. S-t-r-e-t-c-h

    S-t-r-e-t-c-h Active Member R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award

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    First question is, where are you located? In places like Florida, it's illegal to collect rock entirely. Other locations might be polluted enough that I'd personally never consider putting them in the tank...
     
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    +1 on checking legality. My tank is mainly made of rock I foraged, but it had to be 100% dead rock from the beach, couldn't have living organisms on it.
     
  4. nautical_nathaniel

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    First off, welcome to R2R!

    As far as taking rocks from the local waterfront, my main concern would be the legality of such an act. I would check with local law enforcement first to see if you would even be able to lawfully collect the rock. Here in Florida I believe we are not allowed to collect any natural rock in substantial quantities without a permit, some rocks, such as the worm rocks on the east coast, are protected and you can be fined heavily for taking home a large piece or breaking up larger rocks.

    Disinfecting the rock may be tricky, do you know what kind of rock it is? If it's fairly porous it may take longer to clean out any potential nasty substances but if it is not so porous you could probably get away with a good brushing.
     
  5. vertigo01

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    X4 on checking the legality issue.

    Assuming it is legal to procure your live rock.
    How far from the local municipal effluent discharge is the rock?
    How deep under the surface is sId rock?
    Are there any marinas close by?
    Place frequented by boaters?

    IMHO, creating an oil slick or introducing harmful chemical to your tank, is not worth it.
     
  6. Roggio

    Roggio Active Member Tampa Bay Reef Keepers Build Thread Contributor

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    You would be amazed what survives the cleaning and disinfecting process. Do you plan on bleaching or doing sulfuric acid? If you’re in Florida I have a good amount of rock I can give you
     
  7. PatW

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    Collecting your own rock means you have absolutely no idea of the pollutants that might be in it. Also, for live rock, you want porous limestone. There are a number of vendors who sell quality porous dry limestone for reef aquariums. Sure it costs some but not that much. Think of the cost associated with killing a bunch of fish.
     
  8. saltyfilmfolks

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    I'd drop it in a peroxide dip like we do coral to get rid of some crabs and shrimp and then a bucket of salt water for a bit. For die off.

    Or I might just toss it in the tank.
     
  9. Dom

    Dom Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    If it isn't too big, toss it in the microwave for 1-2 minutes. Nothing survives that.
     
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  10. saltyfilmfolks

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    Eww. Also a rock can pop from uneven heating.
    Thermal shock
     
  11. Dom

    Dom Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    Guess I've been lucky.
     
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    I wouldn't put a rock in a microwave - it could explode if there are gases trapped inside
     
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  13. saltyfilmfolks

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    I have some that's from just between SD and Catalina btw.
    It did come to to me dry.
     
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  14. sneeqie

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    I am in Miami, Florida.. so I guess that cancels that out.

    What about random rocks from state parks, not actual live rock?

    I am more than likely going to ask the gentleman below who offered rocks to work something out and use those since I am in Florida.



    Yes, it seems it is in fact illegal to some extent when it comes to organisms.

    Thanks Nathaniel for the warm welcome!
    It is just red rock from the side of the seawall, not sure what you would call it but not very porous.

    I wasn't sure, just an idea that came to mind and figured I would use it as my first post as I am new to all of this.

    I am in Miami, how would we go about exchanging information - through private message or? Message me if so and thank you for the offer!
     
  15. saltyfilmfolks

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    Check the local fish and game web sites.
     
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    I have nothing to add that hasn't been said except for the fact that if I attempted to put anything reef-tank related in the microwave it would probably be "Exhibit A" in the divorce proceedings.
     
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    Do it when the SO isn't home duh
     
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    When it was legal to take some rock here I would just put in in my tank. I didn't see any point in killing live rock.

    Check out construction sites. They dig up plenty of coral rock. Then just clean it and cure it like any dry rock. I scaped a 55 like that once. The only time I ever used dry rock. I've been eyeing a huge piece of swiss cheese coral that's been sitting by my mailbox for over 20 years, but I think it would be too much work to get all the organics out of it.
     
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