Losing fish and hating it.

[Abiathar]

I feel for you. I've been lucky and not had any issues with disease since my freshwater days growing up. I remember treating the fish then with something from the pet store, but I've slept many times since and couldn't tell you what it was. If you haven't thought of it already, make sure to have some PVC pipes and elbows in the QT for the fish to hide. I've never ran even a bowl of sand in a QT tank, so I can't help you there, but agree that any dry/dead reef sand should be fine.

Steve

 

[gmoney243]

dang dude. I'm sorry. I feel ya bro as I've lost a couple of fish in the past couple of weeks. Hang in there

you got ich too?

 

[orthokardia]

sorry about the fish man! I have used herbtana before and it worked well. also smells great!

 

[Dowtish]

sorry about the fish man! I have used herbtana before and it worked well. also smells great!

I started to use it Bart, but you have to run your tank without the skimmer for 10 day, and I have bio-pellets running. After 5 days I decided to stop and still had to wait 4 days before the skimmer wouldnt over flow. Didnt want to take a chance and make things worse with bad water params.

 

[Zef004]

Ive use kick ich too on a buddies tank and work fine. Did not thing to the corals even wild ones.

 

[LeoLionFish]

Chris - if you need help with anything just let me know. I am available most of the time.

 

[angrycubano]

you got ich too?

Nah. My wrasse went in the sand and stayed there for days and wouldn't eat. My diamond goby first stopped sand sifting one day and then I got home and he was belly up.

 

[gmoney243]

Strange did u find a reason mitch?

 

[ToXIc]

Hey Chris any updates?



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[Dowtish]

Currently I have the 55 gallon up and running. I have not lost anymore fish at the moment. The yellow tang looks awful as do the clowns. But they are hanging in there. I installed the UV sterilizer and hope to receive my order in the next day or so. I ordered a sponge filter to add in combination the hang on the back filter that has filter floss type sponge block in it. I also have a new reliable eheim heater and salifert copper test and 2 bottles of cupramine on the way. I have to go out of town for work unfortunately til late Wed. So Thursday will probably be the day I start to transfer every fish over to the hospital tank.

Kevan, I might need to borrow your tubs again. I don't have a lot of confidence that I'm going to be able to catch all the fish in the fish trap. Because the clowns are in hiding and not eating real well.

 

[TinaFoster]

Guess who also had extra sponge filters and HOB filters?
If you need any help just yell. Loud.

 

[Dowtish]

The sponge filter was $7 so I just went ahead and go it. I have like 3 hang on the back filters, and I really wanted a reliable heater, instead of the little cheap ones I had lying around.

Here's a question folks: If you can't have live rock or any substrate in a hospital tank, then it is suggested to use a sponge filter to keep bacteria in the tank. But copper kills nitrifying bacteria, so what's the point?

 

[TinaFoster]

You're correct--there is no point. The tank will not have bacteria period. You'll just keep doing water changes to keep ammonia down, and the sponge filter's benefit is more the air than anything, plus the fact that it catches small bits of dirt. The air is the most important thing you can provide, since medications deplete the oxygen supply, and ammonia buildup, if any, also is smothering.

 

[ToXIc]

np on the tubs..

but i'm not sure i'll be able to help catch them i've gotta study this weekend..

 

[Dowtish]

I can handle it by myself. Unless someone just wants to come over. Don't have to move the tank this time, so shouldn't be that big a deal.

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[angrycubano]

Strange did u find a reason mitch?

Nope. Cuz all of my other fishes are doing great. I think it was just a batch of bad fish since they were the last two I got.

 

[angrycubano]

Currently I have the 55 gallon up and running. I have not lost anymore fish at the moment. The yellow tang looks awful as do the clowns. But they are hanging in there. I installed the UV sterilizer and hope to receive my order in the next day or so. I ordered a sponge filter to add in combination the hang on the back filter that has filter floss type sponge block in it. I also have a new reliable eheim heater and salifert copper test and 2 bottles of cupramine on the way. I have to go out of town for work unfortunately til late Wed. So Thursday will probably be the day I start to transfer every fish over to the hospital tank.

Kevan, I might need to borrow your tubs again. I don't have a lot of confidence that I'm going to be able to catch all the fish in the fish trap. Because the clowns are in hiding and not eating real well.

lemme know if I can be of assistance.

 

[Dowtish]

lemme know if I can be of assistance.

Well...as a matter of fact, if you really want to....again

 

[fishdoc11]

Years ago, a member named c_stowers had a recipe for a I think a medicated fish food for fish with Ich. I remember gettin' some when I thought 1 of my fish had ich but turned out it wasn't ich. But the fish loved the food. Anyone know about this? Probably could find it if I try to dig it up on RC. But it was several years ago...

Steve

Chris got the recipe from me. It's basicaly metronidazole (~ 125 mg or half a regular 250 mg Flagyl) mixed with a little garlic, zoe and selcon in equal parts (the zoe and selcon are not essential but do help some IMO, the garlic is basically to disolve the metronidazole and mask the taste), just enough to disolve and soaked up with freeze dried brine shrimp. Stays good for a few days in the fridge. Feed 2 x a day until a week or so after you see the last ich outbreak is gone. The food is safe to use in a reef tank.

 

[Dowtish]

Thanks so much for the recipe fishdoc. I will pick up some metronidazole tomorrow, I have all the rest of the ingredients.

Btw, I just received my order today, so I have everything I need to get the hospital up and running. The yellow tang has suddenly and surprisingly come out of hiding and is eating quite well, and looking better...it's kinda weird, but I'm not complaining. The 2 clowns are looking horrible and not eating hardly at all. Only garlic soaked mysis is tempting them.

Everybody else in the tank still looks decent and is eating, but everybody is being transferred to the hospital on Saturday.