Lymphocystis

[Humblefish]

Hey guys,
Do fish that have Lympho flash?

I've seen fish with Lympho scratch, almost like they're trying to rub the nodule off.

 

[satttheman]

I've seen fish with Lympho scratch, almost like they're trying to rub the nodule off.

Thank you Sir! Have a tinkeri that was in QT for 6weeks. Treat for bacterial and fungal as well as copper. Added him to a newly setup tank and he broke out with lymphocytosis. Tank was running for over 2 months before adding him but the tank cycled. So I assume the water quality made him breakout.

 

[siniang]

My treatment for lymphocystis: Breathe a huge sigh of relief that it isn't something else and will most likely be gone in less than a week.

Now I'm confused because earlier I've read: If gone within 4 days - velvet. If gone within 7 days - ich. If gone after 7 days - lympho. Also, lympho should be growing in size.

I'm new to the hobby and still learning and apparently already dealing with this (it's on the edge of the left pec fin) and I'm worried sick.

I don't think it has grown in size since I discovered it almost 24h ago. I don't see any other white spots so far. Behavior is normal and humu is eating just fine.

 

[Kershaw]

A reefer that has been in hobby for 25 years told me that if you are careful you can gently rub the nodules off with your hands. Is there any truth to this? And my guess if you rubbed them off before they where ready there would be an open sore with a higher chance for infection?

 

[Humblefish]

A reefer that has been in hobby for 25 years told me that if you are careful you can gently rub the nodules off with your hands. Is there any truth to this? And my guess if you rubbed them off before they where ready there would be an open sore with a higher chance for infection?

I would just leave the fish alone and let the nodules go away/fall off once the virus goes into remission. Unless it is growing over a sensitive area e.g. gill plates, mouth. Back in the day we used to cut the growths off using a razor blade and then dab mercurochrome on it. :eek:

 

[rkpetersen]

Now I'm confused because earlier I've read: If gone within 4 days - velvet. If gone within 7 days - ich. If gone after 7 days - lympho. Also, lympho should be growing in size.

That first part should read: If dead within 4 days - velvet. The ich/crypto line is accurate enough (although it can and will return!)

The only time I've seen lympho myself has been the few times I've bought fish that had it from an lfs. The first time, I was reassured by a knowledgeable employee that it would likely disappear quickly under my care, and so far it always has done so, generally taking about a week to resolve, sometimes a few more days.

And that does look like lympho to me, in your pic; has that cottony appearance.

 

[siniang]

That first part should read: If dead within 4 days - velvet. The ich/crypto line is accurate enough (although it can and will return!)

Oh! It was supposed to read "fish gone within x days", not "spots gone". My bad.

Can you get a better photo? Kinda hard to tell.

I'm trying, but it's really hard as he is still shy (and small) and moves so fast.

However, he's still active and super hungry 3 days in, so I suppose it's most likely lympho. I guess even for ich he should've gotten more white spots by now, right? My other concern was some fungus, but since it doesn't seem to have grown any further, I guess it isn't. Which is a relief.

 

[siniang]

Can you get a better photo? Kinda hard to tell.

 

[siniang]

Ok, it's been 8 days since I first noticed the white on my trigger's fin. I thought it was getting better (fainter, smaller - like the bumpy thing was gone, but you could still guess where it was), but today I thought I noticed a new spot in the same general area a little further inwards. Still really hard to get any pictures :(

Can lympho spread like this?

No other new symptoms (still feeding, still active), no other new spots anywhere else on the body.

 

[rkpetersen]

New 'growths' can appear, yes. Think of them as similar to warts for humans, except more likely to disappear on their own.

 

[siniang]

Thank you.

And can they be less obvious and less crusty? It's almost like the original ones (from the picture above) fell off, but unterlaying it's still two white spots and the new one is the same, kinda in the same area but further inwards, not at the edge of the fin. It's definitely not as obvious as before and one has to look really hard. And it's not crusty/raised.

Wished I could take a picture, but he's moving his fin so fast, it's really hard even to see, let alone take a picture I'm still having this fear of it being ich, but I guess if it was ich, by now there would be more, right? I'm just going by the pictures in the respective threads and they do look so similar to my inexperienced eye

 

[siniang]

I just wanted to give a quick update: Seems like it resolved on its own. If I squint and look veeery hard and closely, I could probably hunch a faint remainder of where the spots were. Nothing obvious, otherwise. No changes in behavior, at all.

Guess it was Lympho after all and followed the usual progress. The initial big white lump disappeared over night and everything else went away on its own. Absolutely no other symptoms. Only things I did was good food, vitamins, and watching water parameters closely.

 

[Dr. Reef]

White lump is nothing but oversized cells with virus factories inside. There is no known cure but if the infected area is on fins it can be surgically removed.
If the white lump disappears it doesn't mean fish is cured. It's just busted out of the cells and is in the water on the bottom of the tank either dormant or ready to attach another fish.

 

[4FordFamily]

White lump is nothing but oversized cells with virus factories inside. There is no known cure but if the infected area is on fins it can be surgically removed.
If the white lump disappears it doesn't mean fish is cured. It's just busted out of the cells and is in the water on the bottom of the tank either dormant or ready to attach another fish.

Agree but generally healthy fish are asymptomatic. :)

 

[Van Wertein]

Should I be concerned if when the lymphocystis is falling off it's taking fun with it

 

[Maritimer]

Maybe ... I'd be more concerned if the lympho is growing back.

(Ragged fin edges will nearly always repair themselves.)

~Bruce

 

[Jholli90]

Does this look like a bad case of lympho? He came like this. I've had him about 2 weeks. I've been treating with kanaplex and neoplex with no improvement, actually looks worse. The pic with the blue in it is an earlier stage. Still eating very good, but swimming seems a little difficult bc of the weight on his fins.

 

[Clowning_Around72]

Does this look like a bad case of lympho? He came like this. I've had him about 2 weeks. I've been treating with kanaplex and neoplex with no improvement, actually looks worse. The pic with the blue in it is an earlier stage. Still eating very good, but swimming seems a little difficult bc of the weight on his fins.

Yours may not make it.

 

[Jholli90]

Yours may not make it.

He still has blue on him, just very dependent on the angle and light.

 

[Clowning_Around72]

He still has blue on him, just very dependent on the angle and light.

Treat him as best you can chalk basslets are tough.