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Full tank shot with the 6:45PM blues.

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Full tank shot with the 6:45PM blues.

looks awesome, and still can't believe it's just a couple months old..However you didn't have to cycle anything I assume, and you stocked it with rock and other things from your older running tanks I'd assume? Also, tell me more about your "Ozone" setup. I Have been going back and forth on adding it to my 180g reef build. I've felt I have kept my water clarity really good with a Fleece roller and a UV sterilizer. So I've been on the fence about upping my game to add ozone. How hard/easy is setup? how hard/easy to monitor, etc?
 
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looks awesome, and still can't believe it's just a couple months old..However you didn't have to cycle anything I assume, and you stocked it with rock and other things from your older running tanks I'd assume? Also, tell me more about your "Ozone" setup. I Have been going back and forth on adding it to my 180g reef build. I've felt I have kept my water clarity really good with a Fleece roller and a UV sterilizer. So I've been on the fence about upping my game to add ozone. How hard/easy is setup? how hard/easy to monitor, etc?
Thanks again. Correct on both accounts with cycle. Old established rock and new live rock from Gulf Live Rock. No dry rock went in the tank that had to cycle. Sand was all new though. Didn’t use anything else of the old sand. Used half dry special grade and half live from GLR. This formula worked like a charm for me. Instant cycle.

Ozone is super simple to set up, BUT you need to do it right. Just need an Ozone generator, dryer to dry air going into generator, some ozone safe airline, and an ozone reactor. I use my skimmer as the reactor. Skimmer needs to be ozone safe.

Rule of thumb to be safe is to set up the generator to produce 15 - 25 mg/h of ozone per 25 gallons. In my case I have 170g net volume and set my generator dial (Poseidon 200) between 4 and 6. I was running it 24/7 but backing down to 8 hours a night. Goal for me is water clarity and probably don’t need to run it as much.

The one thing ozone will give you that nothing else comes close is crystal clear water. Ozone just removes all color/ tanning and essentially becomes invisible ( outside of whatever is flying around in the water. Cost for my setup is under $300. Below is a visual from Ozotech. I don’t have a flow meter but considering getting one.

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Thanks again. Correct on both accounts with cycle. Old established rock and new live rock from Gulf Live Rock. No dry rock went in the tank that had to cycle. Sand was all new though. Didn’t use anything else of the old sand. Used half dry special grade and half live from GLR. This formula worked like a charm for me. Instant cycle.

Ozone is super simple to set up, BUT you need to do it right. Just need an Ozone generator, dryer to dry air going into generator, some ozone safe airline, and an ozone reactor. I use my skimmer as the reactor. Skimmer needs to be ozone safe.

Rule of thumb to be safe is to set up the generator to produce 15 - 25 mg/h of ozone per 25 gallons. In my case I have 170g net volume and set my generator dial (Poseidon 200) between 4 and 6. I was running it 24/7 but backing down to 8 hours a night. Goal for me is water clarity and probably don’t need to run it as much.

The one thing ozone will give you that nothing else comes close is crystal clear water. Ozone just removes all color/ tanning and essentially becomes invisible ( outside of whatever is flying around in the water. Cost for my setup is under $300. Below is a visual from Ozotech. I don’t have a flow meter but considering getting one.

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I have been seriously considering an Ozone set up. You also need something to measure ORP too, correct?
 
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I have been seriously considering an Ozone set up. You also need something to measure ORP too, correct?
Good catch!

I have one and you likely should, but read plenty about those that don’t and just don’t do a high dose and only run it 2 or 3 hours a day for the clarity. That said, I don’t know enough about Ozone to recommend anything other than what experts and manufacturers recommend.

In my tank, I’ve been running mine at about 20 mg/h 24/7 and only raised my ORP about 50 to 250. However, water clarity is insane. Just backed mine down to 8 hours a night and will likely reduce it further.
 

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Good catch!

I have one and you likely should, but read plenty about those that don’t and just don’t do a high dose and only run it 2 or 3 hours a day for the clarity. That said, I don’t know enough about Ozone to recommend anything other than what experts and manufacturers recommend.

In my tank, I’ve been running mine at about 20 mg/h 24/7 and only raised my ORP about 50 to 250. However, water clarity is insane. Just backed mine down to 8 hours a night and will likely reduce it further.
What are you using to measure your ORP?
 

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I just need to bite the bullet and get a controller...
yes...yes you do. LOL

As I said before...I am an "old schooler" and when I got back into reef keeping for the 3rd time a little over a year ago, all the fancy new "Apps" and controls made my head swim. I was bound and determined to "run" as I had done back in the late 1990's....however, here I am with a fully fitted reef tank with Mobius App, My AI app and a full on APEX control running everything. I didn't think I'd ever learn to run all of this stuff, but here I am.
 
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yes...yes you do. LOL

As I said before...I am an "old schooler" and when I got back into reef keeping for the 3rd time a little over a year ago, all the fancy new "Apps" and controls made my head swim. I was bound and determined to "run" as I had done back in the late 1990's....however, here I am with a fully fitted reef tank with Mobius App, My AI app and a full on APEX control running everything. I didn't think I'd ever learn to run all of this stuff, but here I am.
I'm an old guy too but have always loved tech. I had an Apex on my previous system in 2009. Still have it actually. I'd hate running a system without one now. From helping to control anything to the information it provides no matter where you are. I really love the tech.
 
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I just need to bite the bullet and get a controller...
By the way, noob mistake on my part with tank maintenance. After this discussion on ORP, I started thinking as to why my ORP is so low. Then I thought, when was the last time a cleaned that probe? Pulled it and it was really cruded up with snail eggs and sponges. DUH! 🙄 Cleaned it up and a short time later I was at a 330 ORP reading. What a dump butt move on my part. Could have overdosed but kept ozone low because I wasn't sure of the reading. Glad I did.
 
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That's one serious project you've been working on-- looking great!
Thanks man. I just jumped on your build. Beautiful angels and tanks. So sorry to hear about your heater disaster. Must of been devastating! I wish you luck as you repopulate your tanks. We all hear too many stories about heaters. I went expensive with redundancy for heaters on this tank.

Heaters...... Such a simple thing but when things go wrong it's usually pretty bad. Can I ask what happen? Short, overheat, or stopped heating?
 

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@MegabiteOG, it was 100% my fault. Very short version: I decided to do major cleaning of both 150-gallon tanks, and it got late and I had become tired. So I quit for the night. Little did I realize that I had caused each Inlbird probe to dangle out of water in the cold air-- and all night long it had been telling the 600 watt heaters to "heat the water!" I awoke to 'cooked' fish. A huge French Angel I grew from a baby. Same with an adult Emperor Angel. Harlequin Tusk, Purple Tang, the list goes on-on-on. 🙁
 
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@MegabiteOG, it was 100% my fault. Very short version: I decided to do major cleaning of both 150-gallon tanks, and it got late and I had become tired. So I quit for the night. Little did I realize that I had caused each Inlbird probe to dangle out of water in the cold air-- and all night long it had been telling the 600 watt heaters to "heat the water!" I awoke to 'cooked' fish. A huge French Angel I grew from a baby. Same with an adult Emperor Angel. Harlequin Tusk, Purple Tang, the list goes on-on-on. 🙁
Man, that sucks! And it can happen to anyone. Just a simple oversight. Not only did you have some very nice fish in there, you had fish that you've cared for for years. I'm sure it was/ is painful. Thanks for sharing what happened and hope it helps other reefers to avoid the same thing happening to them.

That got me to thinking if I can program something in the APEX to not allow heaters to run more half an hour or so continuously without turning it off and deferring another 30 minutes before turning back on regardless of tank temp.
 
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Man, that sucks! And it can happen to anyone. Just a simple oversight. Not only did you have some very nice fish in there, you had fish that you've cared for for years. I'm sure it was/ is painful. Thanks for sharing what happened and hope it helps other reefers to avoid the same thing happening to them.

That got me to thinking if I can program something in the APEX to not allow heaters to run more than half and hour or so continuously without turning it off and deferring another 30 minutes before turning back on regardless of tank temp.
what I did rather then relying on the Apex to run the heater, I have a separate heater controller that is much more robust for controlling on and off of heater..and then it is plugged into my Apex, and my Apex is just set at a "HIGH" temp, so if the thermometer does fail for some reason, the Apex acts as a backup and will shut it down when the Apex temp probe registers the spike in heat.
 
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what I did rather then relying on the Apex to run the heater, I have a separate heater controller that is much more robust for controlling on and off of heater..and then it is plugged into my Apex, and my Apex is just set at a "HIGH" temp, so if the thermometer does fail for some reason, the Apex acts as a backup and will shut it down when the Apex temp probe registers the spike in heat.
Thanks. Thats how I’m currently set up.

I have 2 complete IM Helios systems with stand alone controllers (a dual 350w and single 350w) connected to my Apex set a couple of degrees higher than the controllers. I’d have to leave all thermostats out of water for what happed to JumboShrimp happen. Although very unlikely, not impossible. I figured some possibly simple programming can add another layer of protection.
 

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