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[Dburr1014]

Yes is api test..so there not correct what the heck?

Don't test for ammonia. API is notorious for giving a wrong reading and it's hard to decipher with the color change. Your tank is already cycled so you should never see ammonia unless you pack it full of fish in that small tank or you accidentally overfeed everything by 10 times what you're doing now.

 

[Rayreef710]

Alk 8ish...stop dosing or is this from water changes?
Po4, reef roids is causing this high number.
Stop using it. Try frozen, it has less po4 and more no3 that flakes, pellets.

Haven't done water change for a week now an us same remix..any other way to bring down all? Will a water changer or more of a water change help

 

[Dburr1014]

Haven't done water change for a week now an us same remix..any other way to bring down all? Will a water changer or more of a water change help

What is your salt brand?

 

[Rayreef710]

Don't test for ammonia. API is notorious for giving a wrong reading and it's hard to decipher with the color change. Your tank is already cycled so you should never see ammonia unless you pack it full of fish in that small tank or you accidentally overfeed everything by 10 times what you're doing n

 

[Rayreef710]

What is your salt brand?

 

[Dburr1014]

This is a relatively new brand.
My suggestion would be mix of fresh batch and test parameters in it. That'll tell you your your alkalinity that you're putting in. I suspect that it's a higher alkalinity. You could use acid to bring it down and aerate the water before using. Randy homes Farley I believe may have a calculator for this.

 

[Rayreef710]

So are all my water parameters off or wrong? Bec it api test? An noted about the ammonia won't test for that anymore

 

[Rayreef710]

This is a relatively new brand.
My suggestion would be mix of fresh batch and test parameters in it. That'll tell you your your alkalinity that you're putting in. I suspect that it's a higher alkalinity. You could use acid to bring it down and aerate the water before using. Randy homes Farley I believe may have a calculator for this.

What type acid? What level should it be at

 

[Dburr1014]

So are all my water parameters off or wrong? Bec it api test? An noted about the ammonia won't test for that anymore

These are the numbers I keep in my reef;

Alk 8ish
Cal 400/450
Mag 1400
Po4 0.08
No3 1.0/5.0
Sg 35=1.026

 

[Rayreef710]

I see u can use vinger? That true is it safe

 

[Dburr1014]

What type acid? What level should it be at

How do I lower alkalinity to newly mixed salt, before adding to display

I guess the title says it all. My tank seems really happy with alk around 7.8-8.2. lets call it 8. My Brightwell salt, which I still have a lot of, mixes around 10.5. I mix 28 gallons at a time. 20 for WC, and I fill 8, 1 gallon jugs for whatever its needed for. Every time I do a WC, alk...

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[Rayreef710]

These are the numbers I keep in my reef;

Alk 8ish
Cal 400/450
Mag 1400
Po4 0.08
No3 1.0/5.0
Sg 35=1.026

Mine are close to u..just my mag lil high an all.

 

[Dburr1014]

Mine are close to u..just my mag lil high an all.

480ppm..kh.196.9ppmkh...phos.25ppm.amm.25ppm...nitrite 0...nitrate 5.0ppm...mag 1410 that's little high.....alk 12.1..water temp 79.5


Is say your alk is really high as well as po4.


These are the 2 numbers that are concerning.

 

[thepotoo]

I don't know that chemistry is the issue here. Yeah, it's a bit off, but no single one of those could have killed this coral. Even ammonia would kill your clownfish before a coral cared. Immediately doing a 100% water change with perfect water would only stress this coral further at this point. Pouring chemicals in to "fix" your parameters will probably kill not only this coral immediately, but most of your other ones over the next couple days.

It's probably not getting enough light and flow (the polyps higher up are retracted, that's what the black dots are on poci).

The time to save this would have been 7 weeks ago when the polyps weren't extending correctly, although at the end of the day, your tank may simply be too new for SPS corals.

At this point, there is almost nothing you can do for this coral. Check to make sure its light and flow are good, move it away from the algae, and perhaps frag a bit off the tips. By the time it's peeling at the base like this, it's a goner though...

Time to focus on the other corals in your tank and make sure they are doing well.

 

[Rayreef710]

I don't know that chemistry is the issue here. Yeah, it's a bit off, but no single one of those could have killed this coral. Even ammonia would kill your clownfish before a coral cared. Immediately doing a 100% water change with perfect water would only stress this coral further at this point. Pouring chemicals in to "fix" your parameters will probably kill not only this coral immediately, but most of your other ones over the next couple days.

It's probably not getting enough light and flow (the polyps higher up are retracted, that's what the black dots are on poci).

The time to save this would have been 7 weeks ago when the polyps weren't extending correctly, although at the end of the day, your tank may simply be too new for SPS corals.

At this point, there is almost nothing you can do for this coral. Check to make sure its light and flow are good, move it away from the algae, and perhaps frag a bit off the tips. By the time it's peeling at the base like this, it's a goner though...

Time to focus on the other corals in your tank and make sure they are doing well.

The pods are out the rest of the way up it..

 

[Rayreef710]

480ppm..kh.196.9ppmkh...phos.25ppm.amm.25ppm...nitrite 0...nitrate 5.0ppm...mag 1410 that's little high.....alk 12.1..water temp 79.5


Is say your alk is really high as well as po4.


These are the 2 numbers that are concerning.

What's the best why to lower both? Safe

 

[Rmckoy]

480ppm..kh.196.9ppmkh...phos.25ppm.amm.25ppm...nitrite 0...nitrate 5.0ppm...mag 1410 that's little high.....alk 12.1..water temp 79.5


Is say your alk is really high as well as po4.


These are the 2 numbers that are concerning.

What is the actual value of hardness ?
196 ppm = 11 dkh
But the next line below says 12.1 dkh
And phosphates you want in the 0.03-0.1 range .
feeding reef roids is notorious for elevating these levels.
If the water source is “natural sea water “ is the op dosing Alk ?

 

[Dburr1014]

I don't know that chemistry is the issue here. Yeah, it's a bit off, but no single one of those could have killed this coral. Even ammonia would kill your clownfish before a coral cared. Immediately doing a 100% water change with perfect water would only stress this coral further at this point. Pouring chemicals in to "fix" your parameters will probably kill not only this coral immediately, but most of your other ones over the next couple days.

It's probably not getting enough light and flow (the polyps higher up are retracted, that's what the black dots are on poci).

The time to save this would have been 7 weeks ago when the polyps weren't extending correctly, although at the end of the day, your tank may simply be too new for SPS corals.

At this point, there is almost nothing you can do for this coral. Check to make sure its light and flow are good, move it away from the algae, and perhaps frag a bit off the tips. By the time it's peeling at the base like this, it's a goner though...

Time to focus on the other corals in your tank and make sure they are doing well.

Yes, this is what I said in the first couple responses.
But, high po4 and high alk in a new system with a new reefer is disaster for the whole tank, IMO.

What's the best why to lower both? Safe

Stop using reef roids asap.
Stop doing water changes with high alk salt. Find a salt brand with close to sea levels.
Do research to find the one you like.

 

[Rmckoy]

What's the best why to lower both? Safe

You can try changing all the parameters but the reality is the chance of saving this coral in a new system is very low .
The actual values of each parameter are not as important as stability

I would personally test the water source you plan on using and maintain those levels .
if this source water has a high Alk I would switch to salt with closer to natural sea water ( nsw ) levels

moving forward water changes and testing frequently are your best tools to be successful with sps

 

[Rayreef710]

You can try changing all the parameters but the reality is the chance of saving this coral in a new system is very low .
The actual values of each parameter are not as important as stability

I would personally test the water source you plan on using and maintain those levels .
if this source water has a high Alk I would switch to salt with closer to natural sea water ( nsw ) levels

moving forward water changes and testing frequently are your best tools to be successful with sps

The alk in that water is 8.8