Please help to identify

[bulzeye]

Looking to help identify what is on the back fin of my flame angel, I just noticed about a day or 2 ago. It seems to be getting bigger but other than that, fish is active and eating. Not hiding or scratching on anything. Thanks everyone

 

[ying yang]

Dont know but resident expert is @jayhemdal
He probably want to know how old tank is.parameters,how old fish is.any fish recently introduced and and loss apetite of fish or behaviours if any

 

[bulzeye]

Tank is about 7 weeks old, its a 40gal breeder. I Have 2 clowns, a watchman, a firefish and the mewest is the flame angel. Had him about a week. Every fish eating well so far.

 

[ying yang]

@Jay Hemdal will tag again as didnt tag above sorry

 

[KrisReef]

That looks like the bite of the clownfish? A 40 breeder is a very small environment for a pair of clowns and an flame angel to share. It looks like the clownfish have been trying to eat the angel out of their tank.

 

[bulzeye]

That looks like the bite of the clownfish? A 40 breeder is a very small environment for a pair of clowns and an flame angel to share. It looks like the clownfish have been trying to eat the angel out of their tank.

Really ? i havent seen any aggression from my clowns, if anything, the flame angel seems to run the tank. I will keep an eye it…thanks

 

[bulzeye]

Im pretty new to reefing and I just noticed that my tiger pistol shrimp is cleaning the flame angel pretty frequently, maybe that could be an option??

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Looking to help identify what is on the back fin of my flame angel, I just noticed about a day or 2 ago. It seems to be getting bigger but other than that, fish is active and eating. Not hiding or scratching on anything. Thanks everyone

It doesn't look raised up, else it might by a common viral disease known as Lymphocystis.

Is part of the fin missing? If so, it may have gotten bitten by another animal, who are its tankmates?


Jay

 

[bulzeye]

It doesn't look raised up, else it might by a common viral disease known as Lymphocystis.

Is part of the fin missing? If so, it may have gotten bitten by another animal, who are its tankmates?


Jay

No parts of the fin are missing from what i can tell, tank mates are as follows: pair of clowns, fire fish, watchman goby and pistol shrimp. Everyone seems to be getting along, if anything, angel seems to run the tank.

 

[bulzeye]

It doesn't look raised up, else it might by a common viral disease known as Lymphocystis.

Is part of the fin missing? If so, it may have gotten bitten by another animal, who are its tankmates?


Jay

it sure appears I have something going on…0please let me know what you think and treatment options.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

it sure appears I have something going on…0please let me know what you think and treatment options.

I can’t see anything on the clownfish or the watchman goby, what can you see in them that makes you think something widespread is going on?
Jay

 

[bulzeye]

I can’t see anything on the clownfish or the watchman goby, what can you see in them that makes you think something widespread is going on?
Jay

I will attach some pics that i circled the areas. Thank you so much Jay for your time and help!
Might have to zoom in on them.

 

[ying yang]

Im just along for the ride but i guess f****s
Let's see ^_^

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I will attach some pics that i circled the areas. Thank you so much Jay for your time and help!
Might have to zoom in on them.

Sorry, the pictures just aren't clear enough. I can see the spots on the clownfish now. You should Google Lymphocystis and look at some online images and see if it matches what you are seeing.

Jay

 

[bulzeye]

Sorry, the pictures just aren't clear enough. I can see the spots on the clownfish now. You should Google Lymphocystis and look at some online images and see if it matches what you are seeing.

Jay

Today on the flame angel, parts of his back fin look chewed on

im going to try and add a video in slow motion

 

[Jay Hemdal]

So here is the thing - in almost every case, fin erosion like that is caused by some mechanical damage, usually another animal attacking it. However, you don't have any likely candidates for that. Maybe the clownfish? You may never see it happen, clowns are pretty sly. However, flame angels are pretty tough, so that leaves a primary bacterial disease as the next most likely issue. Dosing the whole tank with antibiotics probably is not a good idea. However, I don't know what other options you might have.....

Jay

 

[bulzeye]

So here is the thing - in almost every case, fin erosion like that is caused by some mechanical damage, usually another animal attacking it. However, you don't have any likely candidates for that. Maybe the clownfish? You may never see it happen, clowns are pretty sly. However, flame angels are pretty tough, so that leaves a primary bacterial disease as the next most likely issue. Dosing the whole tank with antibiotics probably is not a good idea. However, I don't know what other options you might have.....

Jay

Ok what do you think i should do?? Im open to suggestions!! Thank you so much

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Antibiotics would be the next step I’d say - but dosing your primary tank is risky. What size tank is it and what is the full species list? Do you have a treatment tank you could move the affected fish into?
Jay

 

[bulzeye]

Antibiotics would be the next step I’d say - but dosing your primary tank is risky. What size tank is it and what is the full species list? Do you have a treatment tank you could move the affected fish into?
Jay

40gal breeder: 2-clowns,1-goby,1-firefish,1-flame angel, 1 -pistol shrimp, 1- bta. No corals.
I can get a separate tank if I have too.
My lfs suggested 2 minutes fresh water dip and cleaner wrasse.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Agreeing with Jay, there is presence of fin rot and Lympho warranting treatment. In part may be due to poor or deteriorated tank conditions.
What is your :
Ammonia
nitrate
ph
salinity
temperature
Method of filtration


Age of tank ?? Everything looks very white and flame is not a good starter fish.
What test kits are you using ?