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You keep asking over and over and over and over and over and over and over. I have a very clear stance no QT.I can’t get any clear stances from what you’re saying Hudu, none at all.
Once again with the horse in a bloody pulp here is my method straight from my mouth and in link form. You didn't read last time you won't read it this time and in the future the odds of you reading it are pretty much none, but here it is for you to not read.for example I can’t find any links of systems you produced remotely using a particular fish disease method, can you link one please
You can't even post that because you have literally never done it, even for yourself. Why do you keep posting go to the other forums and "help" the poor souls that are dumb enough to think that you can help them in any way.Can you post a link of a few reef tanks you set up for others so we can track them out a few months?
Well then that is dumb because even I would not suggest not prepping your tank for the new arrivals. So why you are saying this as always make me wonder what your point is and why you are even posting.rn in the new tanks forum all the peers are telling this guy not to qt or do any tank prep,
How about my recommend is simply to not ignore massive data here + a poll stating quarantine and fallow produces the highest degree of fish retention? Quit detracting from that, you don’t have a fish yet in the battle and neither do I.
What time frame are we looking at for your setups? How long ago did you start your first tank? How long on average did you have the tanks up? What caused you to start a new tank? Did you take the previous tank down or did you just restart?First few tanks - never QT'd and eventually lost most fish. Always felt bad, but found ways to justify it. Until I realized how irresponsible this was.
Next few tanks - I started to QT and things did not get much better. I was setting up a QT the day before I would go buy fish, or even same day and it only provided an incredibly stressful situation for already stressed fish. It was a sterile, uncycled environment (I used a sponge from the display but that was never enough). Basically a death trap.
What is the state of your hospital tank? I know you said it wasn't running I am just curious how quickly you could get it up if you needed it?New tank - Finally I decided to set up a QT tank that is always running. It's a 40 breeder with rock, sand, HOB filter, powerhead, light, ect. All fish go here for observation. If they get sick, then I set up my hospital tank (not always running). If they spend two months in the QT and show no signs of anything, then into the main tank.
Did you lose the fish from disease in your observational QT or did you lose them in your medicated QT? How many fish have you lost since you started doing QT? How many fish have made it through the QT? How many fish do you have in your current DT? How long have they been there?Since doing this, I have still lost some fish to disease, but not a single fish from my display has died other than a 9 year old butterfly which died of 'old age'.
Maybe @Sean_B like me didn't vote in the poll. That would be weird huh.what did you vote for in the poll, curious to know
No, because I have an aquarium that I keep and maintain and have fish that rely on me to survive, I just don't think that it is that important to answer a poll that doesn't provide an accurate sample, because unlike you I understand statistics.No it would be expected. I figured you‘d be a firm no. Playing cards close to chest eh
Sure, I think your 1st and 4th line go together - and I do not believe that my display is 100% free from Ich, but it has an extremely low turnover and the health of the fish, their "herd immunity", their comfort with the system and their stress level allows them to handle an occasional up tick in their cycle.The more mature your tank becomes the more able it is to handle parasite loads, so the theory goes.
For me the benefits of working with the fish in a more natural environment lowers stress and makes getting the fish to eat much much easier.
Have you needed to use it?
Can you expound on why you are not concerned about a low pathogen level? Aren't you shooting for zero?
Agreed it sucks when things die, I don't think anyone really likes that pain.
I typically only buy fish from TSM Aquatics or direct from Biota. Purchased numerous fish from TSM with never an issue. I have a shipment coming tomorrow actually from Biota, same never an issue.Brian that fish in your avatar would need preps bigtime, did he turn out well after the qt run or was he bought pre qt
we should add a sticky here of all vendors who sell prepped fish, and prepped clean up crew members. now that would be positive helpful things quickly seen by new readers/ best practice searchers
somehow reef2reef should spotlight vendors who are trying to do better given today’s huge loss % in the hobby