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[InactiveAcct]

I have the heaters on outlet 4 pin number 24, what should the driver for that be? It is on raspberry pi right now.

I had a little bit on an adventure tonight trying to replicate the problem you had. I think I first noticed it when I turned on "stay off on boot" in the heater's equipment settings, may not be the item that caused the error though. At any rate, it started doing exactly what you described where the heater would turn on in the equipment control but was not being controlled with "Temperature". The only error I was getting was:

{"error":"not found - API documentation can be found at https://io.adafruit.com/api/docs"}

The work around for me was to create a new temp control - the original one I've had from the V3 release is still not working despite having the same exact settings.

Should mention that I upgraded from v3.3 to the last v4 release about 3 weeks ago, and to v5.0 a few days ago.

 

[Ranjib]

I had a little bit on an adventure tonight trying to replicate the problem you had. I think I first noticed it when I turned on "stay off on boot" in the heater's equipment settings, may not be the item that caused the error though. At any rate, it started doing exactly what you described where the heater would turn on in the equipment control but was not being controlled with "Temperature". The only error I was getting was:

{"error":"not found - API documentation can be found at https://io.adafruit.com/api/docs"}

The work around for me was to create a new temp control - the original one I've had from the V3 release is still not working despite having the same exact settings.

Should mention that I upgraded from v3.3 to the last v4 release about 3 weeks ago, and to v5.0 a few days ago.

Thank you for sharing the details. so at the end you were not able to setup the temperature control ? If that’s the case then this is a serious bug, and I’ll look asap .
we have not done any changes in temperature control, so it’s possible this is an existing bug that you are hitting during the upgrade.
i have not tested with the ’stay off on boot’ option . I’ll do that next

 

[InactiveAcct]

Thank you for sharing the details. so at the end you were not able to setup the temperature control ? If that’s the case then this is a serious bug, and I’ll look asap .
we have not done any changes in temperature control, so it’s possible this is an existing bug that you are hitting during the upgrade.
i have not tested with the ’stay off on boot’ option . I’ll do that next

Thanks Ranjib, that’s correct. The original temperature controller that’s been configured for a year or so is not communicating with the heater. I configured a new temp controller with the same settings and it’s working as expected - the original still won’t work.
Let me know if there’s anything I can send you from my end to help with troubleshooting.

 

[Coolhack]

I had a little bit on an adventure tonight trying to replicate the problem you had. I think I first noticed it when I turned on "stay off on boot" in the heater's equipment settings, may not be the item that caused the error though. At any rate, it started doing exactly what you described where the heater would turn on in the equipment control but was not being controlled with "Temperature". The only error I was getting was:

{"error":"not found - API documentation can be found at https://io.adafruit.com/api/docs"}

The work around for me was to create a new temp control - the original one I've had from the V3 release is still not working despite having the same exact settings.

Should mention that I upgraded from v3.3 to the last v4 release about 3 weeks ago, and to v5.0 a few days ago.

Are you saying I should create another temp controller under the "Temperature" tab. Should I leave the other two there or delete them?

 

[Coolhack]

Thank you for sharing the details. so at the end you were not able to setup the temperature control ? If that’s the case then this is a serious bug, and I’ll look asap .
we have not done any changes in temperature control, so it’s possible this is an existing bug that you are hitting during the upgrade.
i have not tested with the ’stay off on boot’ option . I’ll do that next

I just tried that and when I try to set the temp probe for the heater control like DanTheReefer said to do only I deleted the original probes still isn't working. When I set it to active it cuts the heaters off.
I really don't want to reset the OS until I get another SD card, been having issues with the ones I have. My plan is to get the raspberry pi 4 to boot from an SSD drive.

 

[InactiveAcct]

I just tried that and when I try to set the temp probe for the heater control like DanTheReefer said to do only I deleted the original probes still isn't working. When I set it to active it cuts the heaters off.
I really don't want to reset the OS until I get another SD card, been having issues with the ones I have. My plan is to get the raspberry pi 4 to boot from an SSD drive.

Goes without saying that the system temp is lower than the set point and the outlet still is not reversed right?

Earlier it was doing nothing. So turning the heaters off at least means there’s some communication somewhere.
I don’t think it was required in the past, but for some reason V5.0 is wanting me to input the chiller threshold even though it’s controlling nothing - I’d make sure you’re setting that higher than the heater thresh temp, like 100 F or something. Also, make sure you do a reload when you change settings, and also that the “stay off on boot” is deselected in the equipment settings… I still feel like that feature has been causing some trouble for me.

 

[InactiveAcct]

I just tried that and when I try to set the temp probe for the heater control like DanTheReefer said to do only I deleted the original probes still isn't working. When I set it to active it cuts the heaters off.
I really don't want to reset the OS until I get another SD card, been having issues with the ones I have. My plan is to get the raspberry pi 4 to boot from an SSD drive.

Also, did you change any hardware settings? Could be that you accidentally flipped your relay wiring to be “normally closed” instead of “normally open”. If it’s “normally closed” you’ll actually want to enable the reverse feature.

 

[Coolhack]

No hardware changes.

 

[InactiveAcct]

No hardware changes.

My phone started blowing up with overheat notifications at work yesterday. I "upgraded" back down to version 4.3 using vnc and everything started working again.

Guess bugs like this will happen from time to time but glad we have plenty of tools to tell us when something is going wrong.

 

[Coolhack]

My phone started blowing up with overheat notifications at work yesterday. I "upgraded" back down to version 4.3 using vnc and everything started working again.

Guess bugs like this will happen from time to time but glad we have plenty of tools to tell us when something is going wrong.

Thinking I am going to change out the temp probes, see if that changes anything.

 

[Coolhack]

My phone started blowing up with overheat notifications at work yesterday. I "upgraded" back down to version 4.3 using vnc and everything started working again.

Guess bugs like this will happen from time to time but glad we have plenty of tools to tell us when something is going wrong.

I reverted back to 4.3 and it seems to have sorted itself out.

 

[Coolhack]

I reverted back to 4.3 and it seems to have sorted itself out.

Spoke too soon, still having the issue with the temp probe controlling the heaters. Reverted back to 4.3. This is horrible watching your corals start to die again. I am about to pack it up. Just when I start to actually have some success stuff like this happens and there is nothing I can do. No switches are on reverse, haven't messed with any settings. I just don't know.

 

[Ranjib]

Spoke too soon, still having the issue with the temp probe controlling the heaters. Reverted back to 4.3. This is horrible watching your corals start to die again. I am about to pack it up. Just when I start to actually have some success stuff like this happens and there is nothing I can do. No switches are on reverse, haven't messed with any settings. I just don't know.

thats sad. take the heater out of reef-pi control if you cant detect whats going wrong. I was not able to find time to cross check, but all my tanks are running fine till now on 5.0.
If you want me to help diagnose the issue, please start a thread. with the temp controller detail. right now i have recollect those details from this thread, which is cumbersome. From what i recall you are using 79.5 degree threshold without any hysteresis. If you do start a thread, please include the logs , reef-pi will log all detail like this (from my controller)

Nov 30 23:43:06 pico-1 reef-pi[425]: 2021/11/30 23:43:06 Reading temperature from device: 28-0417710dbbff
Nov 30 23:43:07 pico-1 reef-pi[425]: 2021/11/30 23:43:07 temperature sub-system:  sensor Tank value: 77.34
Nov 30 23:43:07 pico-1 reef-pi[425]: 2021/11/30 23:43:07 Current value of 'Tank' is below minimum threshold. Executing up routine
Nov 30 23:43:07 pico-1 reef-pi[425]: 2021/11/30 23:43:07 Equipment: Fan On: false
Nov 30 23:43:07 pico-1 reef-pi[425]: 2021/11/30 23:43:07 Equipment: Heater2 On: true

also try with 0.25 as hysteresis value

 

[elysics]

Got a weird bug here. On mobile, when I go into the submenus,like of a temperature or pH probe and change a setting (like for example changing the check frequency of the temp probe or enabling/disabling the pH probe) then the save button doesn't work.

If I hit save, then the submenu closes, if I open it again, the value I changed wasn't saved and is the same as before the change.

If however I don't hit save, but navigate to a different menu like for example the dashboard, and then go back to that submenu, the changed value was saved

Haven't encountered this on desktop

Happened on 4.3 as well

 

[Coolhack]

That’s another good point. Which outlets in your setup are assigned to “heaters?”

Outlet 4

 

[Coolhack]

thats sad. take the heater out of reef-pi control if you cant detect whats going wrong. I was not able to find time to cross check, but all my tanks are running fine till now on 5.0.
If you want me to help diagnose the issue, please start a thread. with the temp controller detail. right now i have recollect those details from this thread, which is cumbersome. From what i recall you are using 79.5 degree threshold without any hysteresis. If you do start a thread, please include the logs , reef-pi will log all detail like this (from my controller)

Nov 30 23:43:06 pico-1 reef-pi[425]: 2021/11/30 23:43:06 Reading temperature from device: 28-0417710dbbff
Nov 30 23:43:07 pico-1 reef-pi[425]: 2021/11/30 23:43:07 temperature sub-system:  sensor Tank value: 77.34
Nov 30 23:43:07 pico-1 reef-pi[425]: 2021/11/30 23:43:07 Current value of 'Tank' is below minimum threshold. Executing up routine
Nov 30 23:43:07 pico-1 reef-pi[425]: 2021/11/30 23:43:07 Equipment: Fan On: false
Nov 30 23:43:07 pico-1 reef-pi[425]: 2021/11/30 23:43:07 Equipment: Heater2 On: true

also try with 0.25 as hysteresis value

Dude, burned out temp probe. Is there a particular brand that lasts anymore then 5 or 6 months? I mean, I do spend more a year on filter floss than anything excluding food. I don't buy

 

[InactiveAcct]

Dude, burned out temp probe. Is there a particular brand that lasts anymore then 5 or 6 months? I mean, I do spend more a year on filter floss than anything excluding food. I don't buy

Is this the thermometer in your heater or the probe attached to reefpi? To make your probe last longer, encase it with shrink sleeving and pot it (fill with epoxy or super glue gel, etc)

 

[Ranjib]

Dude, burned out temp probe. Is there a particular brand that lasts anymore then 5 or 6 months? I mean, I do spend more a year on filter floss than anything excluding food. I don't buy

all my canakit or adacfruit or drok probes have lasted more than few years. In fact I only had two probes (among dozens that I used) that went bad for me.

 

[elysics]

Got a weird bug here. On mobile, when I go into the submenus,like of a temperature or pH probe and change a setting (like for example changing the check frequency of the temp probe or enabling/disabling the pH probe) then the save button doesn't work.

If I hit save, then the submenu closes, if I open it again, the value I changed wasn't saved and is the same as before the change.

If however I don't hit save, but navigate to a different menu like for example the dashboard, and then go back to that submenu, the changed value was saved

Haven't encountered this on desktop

Happened on 4.3 as well

Need to revise that report, seems to just save the values veeery slowly. On PC too. I can hit save and nothing happens, F5 or CTRL+F5 and no change ,but if I come back a minute or two later then the change is there, switching menus seems to have been coincidence

Could that be a dying pi or SD card or something in reefpi?

 

[Ranjib]

Need to revise that report, seems to just save the values veeery slowly. On PC too. I can hit save and nothing happens, F5 or CTRL+F5 and no change ,but if I come back a minute or two later then the change is there, switching menus seems to have been coincidence

Could that be a dying pi or SD card or something in reefpi?

Does the cpu and memory graph looks normal?