Show Off and Discuss Your Red Sea Reefer Series

bizacon · Nov 16, 2016

Where are you located? Some LFS can do a little discount to keep business at the small stores too

nycluis718 said:
anyone know if the res sea reefer 250 will go lower then $1299 on black friday?

Xclusive Reef · Nov 16, 2016

bizacon said:
Where are you located? Some LFS can do a little discount to keep business at the small stores too

The 3 I checked in nyc queens all said Red Sea reefers we ordered at price.

bizacon · Nov 16, 2016

Guess they have to pay those rent prices in the city!!

Logistically speaking, if you're in the city, might be better to just order from a big box store so it will show up on your door step.
Dr foster smith had them discounted 20-25% off in October. So expect something like that next week

Wrasse · Nov 16, 2016

bizacon said:
Where are you located? Some LFS can do a little discount to keep business at the small stores too

nycluis718 said:
The 3 I checked in nyc queens all said Red Sea reefers we ordered at price.

Just a heads up about this: The thing with these tanks are it's MAP pricing and the repercussions if caught selling for less make it not worth risking it. No store is going to make any such deal over the phone because historically that's how they get busted. Plus the more they sell and the larger the model the better their discount on future tanks. There's also some fuss about if you have any warranty issues they want to see a receipt.

blkhwkz · Nov 16, 2016

Wrasse said:
Just a heads up about this: The thing with these tanks are it's MAP pricing and the repercussions if caught selling for less make it not worth risking it. No store is going to make any such deal over the phone because historically that's how they get busted. Plus the more they sell and the larger the model the better their discount on future tanks. There's also some fuss about if you have any warranty issues they want to see a receipt.

I've said this before, MAP= Minimum Advertised Price. LFS are free to sell it for whatever they want, they can't advertise that price. Then there are some manufacturers that allow below MAP pricing to be advertised for special sales or times of the year. That is why BRS and MD only show below MAP pricing when they are allowed since they are online only so all prices are "advertised."

Wrasse · Nov 16, 2016

blkhwkz said:
I've said this before, MAP= Minimum Advertised Price. LFS are free to sell it for whatever they want, they can't advertise that price. Then there are some manufacturers that allow below MAP pricing to be advertised for special sales or times of the year. That is why BRS and MD only show below MAP pricing when they are allowed since they are online only so all prices are "advertised."

I get that this is what it stands for but feel like most retailers have been sticking to it as being the only price they're allowed to sell for. When I was getting my tank setup (advertised price or not) practically all of the stores I spoke with wouldn't budge. I know of a tool shop around me who offered to sell a brand power tool privately (not advertising it publicly or anything like that) for below MAP and now they won't send them any additional units. If this isn't the case for RedSea stuff I'd love to be wrong as I'm a sucker for a good deal.

powers2001 · Nov 17, 2016

pelphrey said:
If not look in their sponsor forum and sign up for the next group buy. You can sign up and earn 10% rewards points, that's what I did and got back a decent chunk of change to spend on my return pump!

At Bulk Reef Supply I got this 10% back to use some other time with their group buy too. With a RSR 250 I got $139 to use on whatever I wanted and I bought 1/2 my Pukani dryrock with it. At Bulk Reef Supply, Red Sea products aren't MAP. Just Ecotech, Aquaillumination, and Nyos are MAP products whenever they have a sale.

Broadfield · Nov 17, 2016

powers2001 said:
At Bulk Reef Supply I got this 10% back to use some other time with their group buy too. With a RSR 250 I got $139 to use on whatever I wanted and I bought 1/2 my Pukani dryrock with it. At Bulk Reef Supply, Red Sea products aren't MAP. Just Ecotech, Aquaillumination, and Nyos are MAP products whenever they have a sale.

Neptune should also be a MAP product. The main reason it's hard to find a deal on Red Sea tanks is that there's not much room to work for the dealers. I'm a wholesaler for Premium Aquatics and I don't save squat on them... whereas I do on Neptune, AI, EcoTech, Nyos, Reef Octopus, Giesemann, ATI... pretty much everything else.

Xclusive Reef · Nov 17, 2016

Good to know ok thanks guys will keep my eyes open.

pelphrey · Nov 17, 2016

blkhwkz · Nov 17, 2016

Broadfield said:
Neptune should also be a MAP product. The main reason it's hard to find a deal on Red Sea tanks is that there's not much room to work for the dealers. I'm a wholesaler for Premium Aquatics and I don't save squat on them... whereas I do on Neptune, AI, EcoTech, Nyos, Reef Octopus, Giesemann, ATI... pretty much everything else.

The wholesale accounts don't get a lot of room on Red Sea, but the authorized dealers do. I paid well under MAP and he told me flat out he still made money off me. Made the mistake of telling me there is a lot of profit in the Red Sea tanks before giving me a price so I knew I could get it lower. As a wholesale account PA is still making money off of you, dealers go right to the vendors and get even better prices.

powers2001 · Nov 17, 2016

Broadfield said:
Neptune should also be a MAP product. The main reason it's hard to find a deal on Red Sea tanks is that there's not much room to work for the dealers. I'm a wholesaler for Premium Aquatics and I don't save squat on them... whereas I do on Neptune, AI, EcoTech, Nyos, Reef Octopus, Giesemann, ATI... pretty much everything else.

As far as Neptune being a MAP product at BRS, it depends on the sale. For group buys Neptune is NOT a MAP product. Get 80 bucks back, who doesn't want 80 bucks?

Xclusive Reef · Nov 17, 2016

What size , brand skimmer works best on reefer 250? Was looking at red octopus or skimz..

powers2001 · Nov 17, 2016

nycluis718 said:
What size , brand skimmer works best on reefer 250? Was looking at red octopus or skimz..

I'm using my backup skimmer, an Eshopps PSK 100, until I have the money to get a nice Skimz skimmer.

blkhwkz · Nov 18, 2016

BRS is doing 15% off right now on the Reefers.

lake985 · Nov 18, 2016

blkhwkz said:
BRS is doing 15% off right now on the Reefers.

Awesome--just ordered a 425XL. I was torn between getting the Reefer, SCA 120G, or a Cad Lights 100G, but this sale made the decision a no brainer!

pelphrey · Nov 18, 2016

lake985 said:
Awesome--just ordered a 425XL. I was torn between getting the Reefer, SCA 120G, or a Cad Lights 100G, but this sale made the decision a no brainer!

That is awesome! I also looked at the line of SCA tanks and almost got on. When I stumbled across the reefer it was a hard decision, I can tell you I don't regret my choice at all! Looking forward to the build!

pelphrey · Nov 18, 2016

lake985 · Nov 18, 2016

pelphrey said:
That is awesome! I also looked at the line of SCA tanks and almost got on. When I stumbled across the reefer it was a hard decision, I can tell you I don't regret my choice at all! Looking forward to the build!

Thanks! This is my second reef tank, but first with a sump so I'm pretty clueless about plumbing. Needless to say, your YouTube vids have been very helpful.

blkhwkz · Nov 18, 2016

lake985 said:
Thanks! This is my second reef tank, but first with a sump so I'm pretty clueless about plumbing. Needless to say, your YouTube vids have been very helpful.

I got the XL425 too and was my first tank with a sump. Now I wish I had started with sumps and not AIO. I was debating about swapping out my JBJ45 for either a Reefer 170 or 250 or an SCA 50 gallon.