Silicate Dosing for Reef Tanks

I use canister filters on a temporary basis for about an hour. I connect the filter to a gravel vacuum and suck the sand. For rock, I will scrub with a toothbrush and vacuum algae. This allows hours of work and removal that would be limited if done with water change. WC or blowing /scrubbing is not very effective for controlling algae unless physical removal is included.
Ah okay makes sense. I will look into this since I like to vacuum my sand periodically. Do you have a recommended gravel vac?
 
These calculations are based on quite a few assumptions, maybe you want to still use a smaller dose first and increase step by step.

I assume your tank is struggling with dinoflagellates? Maybe you can open a thread and the community might be able to access the proplem in greater detail. I see you had a thread a year ago, but it's still worth a try I suppose.
I really just wanted a second opinion on the dose. I appreciate the help. I am dealing with some Dino’s. Not the horrible take over the tank kind. Just the brown sand kind. I’m just tired of looking at them after 5 months. Going to hit them with silica, sand UV, and some bacteria dosing combined. Hopefully that will do it
 
Ah okay makes sense. I will look into this since I like to vacuum my sand periodically. Do you have a recommended gravel vac?
No, I just use the one I have. I did buy a connector at the hardware store for the different sized hoses. Yes, it’s fairly basic but very useful. I don’t go at all deep, just the surface of the sand because I don’t want to remove worms and good stuff only algae and detritus.


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Silicate feeds diatoms and sponges in reef tanks. Diatoms in particular are good at outcompeting dinos, feeding copepods, and might even feed corals and filter feeders when scraping the glass. Diatoms are also less visible than the standard green film algae they replace.

There is no need to test for silicate because it depletes quickly and the dose I’m suggesting will not accumulate over time. In addition, the dose has absolutely no interference with phosphate test kits. It will not cause false positives.

Here are Amazon links to purchase sodium silicate:



Sodium silicate is very thick. It’s not as simple as saying 1 gram of silicate = 1 mL of silicate. I accounted for this by using its density, so pick whatever’s most convenient.

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How often should this be done?
 
Hey guys,

I have been dosing 2ml of 40% sodium silicate into my 125g atleast once a week for a couple months and i have still not gotten diatoms. Should i just double the dose? Is this uncommon?

How do you know? What color is the growth in the glass?

That said, something else may be limiting them, such as a trace element or competition from other organisms.
 
Hey guys,

I have been dosing 2ml of 40% sodium silicate into my 125g atleast once a week for a couple months and i have still not gotten diatoms. Should i just double the dose? Is this uncommon?
I recently dosed my tank with %40 sodium silicate, and I’m already starting to see a lot of improvement in the tank in terms of Dino’s.. maybe it’s the combination of things I’m doing, (silicates, raising nutrients, and manually exporting through frequent filter sock changes, oh and microbacter 7)

I never identified the type I have… purely out of laziness but fingers crossed lol
 
How do you know? What color is the growth in the glass?

That said, something else may be limiting them, such as a trace element or competition from other organisms.


Looks like there are some. Had to confirm with microscope. I just haven’t seen blanket of brown dusting like I did last time I got ugly stage diatoms.
 
Looks like there are some. Had to confirm with microscope. I just haven’t seen blanket of brown dusting like I did last time I got ugly stage diatoms.
This is a normal amount of diatoms between coolia dinos. When dosing silicate I would expect a much higher density. You can take a look at post #16 in my microscopy thread. In the video you will see clusters of diatoms that form the brown stains you can see even without using a microscope. When dealing with dinoflagellates you will need a much denser population.

In the video below you can see Licmophora sp. diatoms together with Ostreopsis sp. dinoflagellates. This was a pretty normal sight in my tank for quite some time when cleaning the glass with a blade. I don't know how effective diatoms are against Coolia sp., but I assume you need a decent density or there won't be much of an effect at all.
Maybe just get a silicate test kit for reef tanks and check if you are actually dosing anything or if they sold you a water bottle as sodium silicate 😂
 
This is a normal amount of diatoms between coolia dinos. When dosing silicate I would expect a much higher density. You can take a look at post #16 in my microscopy thread. In the video you will see clusters of diatoms that form the brown stains you can see even without using a microscope. When dealing with dinoflagellates you will need a much denser population.

In the video below you can see Licmophora sp. diatoms together with Ostreopsis sp. dinoflagellates. This was a pretty normal sight in my tank for quite some time when cleaning the glass with a blade. I don't know how effective diatoms are against Coolia sp., but I assume you need a decent density or there won't be much of an effect at all.
Maybe just get a silicate test kit for reef tanks and check if you are actually dosing anything or if they sold you a water bottle as sodium silicate 😂
thanks for the response. Yeah I have the Hanna silicate test on the way. Idk how I don’t have crazy diatoms with how long I’ve been dosing. The silicate solution is insanely thick like a gel and when I mix it and pour in the tank it makes a white cloud. Not sure if that sounds right lol.
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The silicate solution is insanely thick like a gel and when I mix it and pour in the tank it makes a white cloud. Not sure if that sounds right lol.
Yes, that's how it should look like...

@Randy Holmes-Farley
As far as I know there are multiple different silicates in sodium silicate. They are all of the structure Na₂ₘSiₙO₂ₙ₊ₘ (examples: Na₂SiO₃, Na₂SiO₄, or Na₆Si₂O₇). I don't know if some of these compounds cannot be used by diatoms as they require use orthosilicic acid Si(OH)₄ to get the SiO₂ they actually need. Or do all these compounds dissociate in water or can be broken down by microorganisms?
 

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