Solve my salt creep issue!

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  1. KKerm2

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    Hey all,

    I have a rimless waterbox 50.3 with a custom lid made from TopLids. Sadly, I have serious salt creep issues. It is absolutely terrible. Drips down the sides of the tank and all over the top of the lid over the course of a couple days. Anyone have any ideas to solve this issue?

    I was wondering if maybe I propped it up with small rubber pieces, maybe the condensation wouldn't get between the lid and the rim of the tank?

    Thanks guys!

    Kevin
     

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    Jimbo662 Valuable Member Partner Member 2019

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    Can you post a picture of the top of the tank?
     
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    Here are 2 images

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  4. KKerm2

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    This shows the water level a little better, but that is the lowest it goes.
     
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    Jimbo662 Valuable Member Partner Member 2019

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    Where are you seeing the salt creep happen? I don't see any reason why it would happen.
     
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    WVNed The fish are staring at me with hungry eyes. R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    Salt creep comes from tank water, not evaporated water.
     
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    My understanding from monitoring it, is that somehow, tank water gets in-between the lid and the rim of the tank. Salt creep then builds on the outside of the lid and sometimes even runs in lines down the tank. When I get home today, I will try and get a picture of the salt creep build up. I just cleaned it Saturday, but I am sure some is starting to build up already.
     
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    Does the lid sit on top of the glass?
     
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    Yes, it sits right on top on the tank. I can try and get better pictures today
     
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    Jimbo662 Valuable Member Partner Member 2019

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    I would say with it sitting on top and a high water level is causing it. Any splashing will cause the water to wick up into the seam.
     
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    Yes, thats what I am thinking as well. I am wondering if I get thin rubber washers, and rest them on the 4 corners and middle of the lid, it could solve the issue while also still being a good lid for the tank?
     
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    Surface agitation will create a misting. That mist gets up in between the lid and the top of the tank. When the water evaporates, salt is all that is left. As this continues to happen, you get salt build up or "creep".

    Salt creep is a fact of life in any tank I've ever owned. Through diligent husbandry, I keep it at bay. You may want to try and put a seal around the top of the tank to sit between the tank and lid. This may prevent some moisture from getting in between the tank and lid and reduce the amount of creep. But I don't think you will ever eliminate it completely.
     
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    I suggest slightly lowering your water level in the tank.
     
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    Really not sure how to do that. This was the lowest I was able to get it
     
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    I have to choose between salt creep or extensive evaporation (I live in the desert). The glass lid collects the splashing and misting and over a few days it looks ugly. I just try to wipe it down every morning when I feed the fish. Staying on top of it helps.
     
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    Seems your water level is quite high. Do you have you power heads pointing at the surface?
     
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    Nope, my mp10s are lower in the water column and the 2 return nozzles just agitate the surface of the water in the center. I believe all waterbox tanks have their water level somewhere in between the waterbox aquarium logo on the left hand side of the glass. I would love to lower the water level, but don't think I can.
     
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    ^^ This! I still have glass tops on my tank, and the water will wick up the corners and then get into the top frame, and make its way to the corners. It got so bad, I thought my tank was leaking.

    Maybe try some pieces of acrylic. You could get some solvent, a small piece of acrylic, from HD or lowes for about $10. This way you don't have the rubber causing an eyesore. Well, it wouldnt be an eyesore to some, but with that nice clean set up, I'd want to keep the look as best as possible.
     
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    Thanks! That is a good idea. Acrylic would blend easier I think. Not sure if it will definitely work. Just wondering if a tiny air gap would solve the issue while not being really noticeable.
     
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    The issue is most likely the splashing you mentioned.
    Get rid of the splashing and the salt creep will stop.
    What is the source of the splashing. In my systems it is bubbles. I control the bubbles and the salt creep mostly goes away. Algae growing up the side of the tank from the water level to the lid will provide a path for the water to wick up and that could also be the path. So I'd check on the inside of the glass and make sure that it is clean. A little razor blade action should do the trick.
     
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