SUCCESSFULLY GRAFTED TORCH

[i cant think]

Do people forget these are animals?

What if people grafted a cat and dog together and it slowly suffered and died?

Still interesting experiment?

This shouldn’t be allowed on the forum, animal abuse.

Honestly, seeing certain coral being grafted together is interesting. I mean, I love seeing grafted Montipora and how they turn out (usually being a mash up of each piece).

How this is animal abuse is confusing, purely because grafting is essentially like making hybrids of certain dogs. We aren’t taking two totally different animals and throwing them together, we’re taking the same species of animal but different morphs and merging them together in a sense of hybridisation.

 

[James M]

Do people forget these are animals?

What if people grafted a cat and dog together and it slowly suffered and died?

Still interesting experiment?

This shouldn’t be allowed on the forum, animal abuse.

keeping fish in a glass box is animal abuse by your logic

 

[JayM]

Do people forget these are animals?

What if people grafted a cat and dog together and it slowly suffered and died?

Still interesting experiment?

This shouldn’t be allowed on the forum, animal abuse.

Your logic is flawed. A purple torch and a yellow torch being grafted is more like mixing a yellow lab and a chocolate lab. Not at all unethical.

It’s nothing like mixing a dog and a cat.

 

[KrisReef]

Your logic is flawed. A purple torch and a yellow torch being grafted is more like mixing a yellow lab and a chocolate lab. Not at all unethical.

It’s nothing like mixing a dog and a cat.

Dead end of an evolutionary line that wasn’t fit for any ecological niche.

 

[Estonian Reefer]

Is it truly crafted ? Or is it two tissues sharing a skeletal structure? How did you go about infusion?

 

[Tired]

Do people forget these are animals?

What if people grafted a cat and dog together and it slowly suffered and died?

Still interesting experiment?

This shouldn’t be allowed on the forum, animal abuse.

Corals don't have brains, is the thing. They are animals, yes, but in terms of awareness they're more like plants made out of meat. This isn't inhumane any more than it would be inhumane for me to experiment with grafting different fruit trees together.

When discussing animal welfare, it's important to take into account the individual needs of the animal. A dog would be miserable (and then dead) shut in a glass box full of nothing but water and rocks, while a frogfish will thrive in that environment and would be heavily stressed by attempts to interact with it like it's a dog.
It's also important to remember that any given animal has a set of requirements, which, if met, give it a good quality of life. For many tiny animals, those requirements can be met in a nice box in one's house.

 

[IrishDave]

Torch experiment here at Koral King. Cuts performed on 15th of nov, have been healing for 4 days now and is Showing signs of taking the graft successfully. Both fragments have shown good signs of health and healing with no tissue recession or melting. Polyps have been performing feeding responses when fed so it is looking good for this one. Graft performed with one purple tip torch and one Rasta (yellow tip) torch. Updates will be posted.

Any updates ?

Did this coral live ?

 

[i cant think]

Any updates ?

Did this coral live ?

I doubt it

 

[MindlessToxin]

LOL!

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

Gotta love those prices! I'm sure someone will be willing to pay that.

 

[randomfishdude]

Lol
Ill do it myself for that price

 

[MindlessToxin]

I seen another online from a different vendor priced at 2k.. They are both actually out of stock so they must of sold!

 

[JonoH]

I dont get why though - like it looks cool, but just buy both torches and have them in your tank side by side...

 

[SpyC]

I seen another online from a different vendor priced at 2k.. They are both actually out of stock so they must of sold!

Create a false sense of demand and you can sell anything. Have the listing up as out of stock for a month then slowly release heads every few months. It’s all a game

 

[JonoH]

Create a false sense of demand and you can sell anything. Have the listing up as out of stock for a month then slowly release heads every few months. It’s all a game

Surely it would only split into single colour heads though right?

 

[VintageReefer]

I have a natural grafted torch
From a private collector who has the colony for 20 years, and they said it’s rare but every once in a while…one of these is created


And mines better - much more even balance of the colors lol

 

[MindlessToxin]

@VintageReefer there he is!
And you didn't have to sell your soul for yours! :face-with-tears-of-joy:

 

[VintageReefer]

I sent you down the rabbit hole. You found this thread. Then I had the pics on my mind so I added to it!

 

[VintageReefer]

I like how it says “natural graft” but when you read how it was done it’s absolutely not natural

 

[MindlessToxin]

I like how it says “natural graft” but when you read how it was done it’s absolutely not natural

Right! :rolling-on-the-floor-laughing: