LOL this is hilarious, the great tang debate......again. My tangs talk to me and say they are "happy" all the time.
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LOL this is hilarious, the great tang debate......again. My tangs talk to me and say they are "happy" all the time.
I did not yell at anyone, just said they should be ashamed of themselves for not taking care of their animals. I also told them I will no longer shop there for fish.A fish eating doesn't mean it's happy, it just means it's eating. If tangs do well in 50 gallon tanks, why do people say you can't keep them that way?
Petco is going to continue to have a pathetic saltwater section until it stops being profitable. They don't care about animals, just about profit. I've been to one that had tiny baby dart frogs in stock, but hadn't given the employees any info on how to keep them alive, and didn't even make sure to have a proper-sized food for them. Poor things were in there with pinhead crickets the size of their heads. Yelling at the employees won't change anything, either- they don't control the decisions about what to get in.
Not taking sides.. but you say "You should do what works". What he's doing is literally working. Also, if we're on the topic of the ethics. A lot of the fish we all keep is taken from it's home and shove it in a tiny glass box.. without sin cast the first stone etc.. If you're going to be that hyper-ethical about it it then one might consider that stance a bit hypocritical no? His tank looks healthy, the fish looks far from unhealthy. You should absolutely do what you want in this hobby within reason. Don't shove a 2 foot fish in a 20g. Don't put 10 tangs in a 40. Putting a single smaller (Yellows are on the smaller) in a 45 for the time being it not outside the realm of reason. We all care about the animals, but there is a line where we've all strictly drawn a boundary about not caring THAT much otherwise we wouldn't be here.No, it will not. Otherwise, more people would do it. I ask the question again: why do people say the minimum tank size is much bigger than that, if it's not? Is there a conspiracy by the giant tank manufacturers?
You should not "do what you want" in this hobby. You should do what works, or what, based on reasonable evidence, can be expected to work. Otherwise, you'll kill things. And it's one thing to experiment with coral in new environments, it's another to put fish, which have brains and feel pain, in inadequate conditions because you want that particular pretty fish.
When one adds a tang or large angel crammed into a small tank with little swimming room, their internal organs often grow faster than their body can. They often don’t get near the size, or live near as long as they would in the wild or in a properly sized tank. Tangs can live for a very long time when healthy, you’ll see That’s not the case in a small aquarium. Do what you will, just consider other people’s advice who may have been there.
Also your three large tangs in a 65 is absurd nano Ryan.
I have been doing fresh water for around 40 years and I've kept Oscars in a 55 gallon, never seen them or other large cichlids stop growing and internal organs outgrow their body. Maybe it is different for salt water fish. Anyway I've always had the intention of getting a larger aquarium at the time but things have changed and now do not want to upset my system just to take out my Tang. I am hopeful will find something soon and I can transfer everything from the 46 all at once.When one adds a tang or large angel crammed into a small tank with little swimming room, their internal organs often grow faster than their body can. They often don’t get near the size, or live near as long as they would in the wild or in a properly sized tank. Tangs can live for a very long time when healthy, you’ll see That’s not the case in a small aquarium. Do what you will, just consider other people’s advice who may have been there.
Also your three large tangs in a 65 is absurd nano Ryan.
What do you mean by " the fish looks far from healthy "?Not taking sides.. but you say "You should do what works". What he's doing is literally working. Also, if we're on the topic of the ethics. A lot of the fish we all keep is taken from it's home and shove it in a tiny glass box.. without sin cast the first stone etc.. If you're going to be that hyper-ethical about it it then one might consider that stance a bit hypocritical all things considered no? His tank looks healthy, the fish looks far from healthy. You should absolutely do what you want in this hobby within reason. Don't shove a 2 foot fish in a 20g. Don't put 10 tangs in a 40. Putting a single smaller (Yellows are on the smaller) in a 45 for the time being it not outside the realm of reason. We all care about the animals, but there is a line where we've all strictly drawn a boundary about not caring THAT much otherwise we wouldn't be here.
Mistype, edited.What do you mean by " the fish looks far from healthy "?
I take very good care of my pets, I have 2 cats and the one for my avatar is Rusty and he had a cracked tooth, I have a wellness plan for both of them and part of the plan is dental cleaning. Well I had to have the tooth extracted which cost me $370. I could have refused to pay that and let him suffer with a decaying tooth. No way, My pets are more important than my money. He's watching me brush my teeth.Mistype, edited.
:~ :/When one adds a tang or large angel crammed into a small tank with little swimming room, their internal organs often grow faster than their body can. They often don’t get near the size, or live near as long as they would in the wild or in a properly sized tank. Tangs can live for a very long time when healthy, you’ll see That’s not the case in a small aquarium. Do what you will, just consider other people’s advice who may have been there.
Also your three large tangs in a 65 is absurd nano Ryan.
:~ :/
I truly did not know this is the case. I guess that is why my fish is so round in the stomach. All their inner organs much be twice a big as they should be. Do you think they die soon?
What size tank is that? The PB is massive. Also how old are they?:~ :/
I truly did not know this is the case. I guess that is why my fish is so round in the stomach. All their inner organs much be twice a big as they should be. Do you think they die soon?
I wouldn't say its “absurd” to have 3 small tangs in a 65g. Whats absurd is that there is no evidence that a tang’s organs will grow faster then their body. False fact.When one adds a tang or large angel crammed into a small tank with little swimming room, their internal organs often grow faster than their body can. They often don’t get near the size, or live near as long as they would in the wild or in a properly sized tank. Tangs can live for a very long time when healthy, you’ll see That’s not the case in a small aquarium. Do what you will, just consider other people’s advice who may have been there.
Also your three large tangs in a 65 is absurd nano Ryan.
My DT is a 320 gal tank. And my PBT is about 7.5-8 inches. I just think that it is silly to state that tangs and angels in small tank have internal organ grew faster than the fish over all.What size tank is that? The PB is massive. Also how old are they?
I am never an advocate for keeping big fishes in little tanks but trying to promote certain practice by using hyperbole or out right false information is something we should not do.What is silly is people encouraging bad habits to be honest. I mean you obviously know a PB and a yellow is fine in a 320 gallon tank.. and we both know 3 in a 65 is incredibly unacceptable.