Tang with Ich

[Sailfinguy21]

It wont..what fish do you have ? Is it jist tje tomini ? Some fish cant handle hypo.. s9me cant handle copper.

It depends on your fish.. but ny tomini sail fine tang, yellow tang. Coral beauty. Bi color angels and clown fish blue gudheon gobies and dottybacks didnt show any issues when i just tossed them into 1.009 salinity.

Its the raise in salinity that has to be slow.

Edit: hypo omand copper fyi will kill corals.. copepods.. certain algaes.. and stuff living in live rocks and sand.. so watch for ammonia spikes with either.... But i highely rec9mend hypo over copper.. copper can damage fish organs.. immune system and so forth.. hypo doesnt hurt any fish unless its with wrasse anthais. Butterfly fish and flame angels..

I litterally have had some of my tangs and fish in hypo salinity for over 10 weeks

 

[Kasey Grohowski]

It wont..what fish do you have ? Is it jist tje tomini ? Some fish cant handle hypo.. s9me cant handle copper.

It depends on your fish.. but ny tomini sail fine tang, yellow tang. Coral beauty. Bi color angels and clown fish blue gudheon gobies and dottybacks didnt show any issues when i just tossed them into 1.009 salinity.

Its the raise in salinity that has to be slow.

Edit: hypo omand copper fyi will kill corals.. copepods.. certain algaes.. and stuff living in live rocks and sand.. so watch for ammonia spikes with either.... But i highely rec9mend hypo over copper.. copper can damage fish organs.. immune system and so forth.. hypo doesnt hurt any fish unless its with wrasse anthais. Butterfly fish and flame angels..

I litterally have had some of my tangs and fish in hypo salinity for over 10 weeks

Only thing in that tank is the tomini tang 20 pounds sand and 10 pounds rock.

 

[Sailfinguy21]

You might see a small ammonia spike but the tomini can handle the drop just fine

 

[Kasey Grohowski]

You might see a small ammonia spike but the tomini can handle the drop just fine

I have seachem prime on hand.

 

[Sarah24!]

Hello,

As I just recently experienced like two weeks ago are you sure this is actually ick and not stress induced ick? The reason I bring this up is, my purple tang and Lt tang one day showed up with ick. No other fish have shown any signs, and all fish have been there for 19 months.

Now each tank is different but I increased feeding, added probiabotic flake food and switched to a better frozen food. I also went from one cap full of garlic guard a day to three. Within 3 days the spots stayed off and still haven’t come back and or any of my other fish, even my ick magnets blue hippo tang have shown no signs.

Yes it’s better to be safe than sorry, but I’m not sure how new your tank is and or your tang is either. If they are brand new I agree with the rest do the main treatments now and know for sure. But if he has been in there for over s year like mine have been I would slow down and make sure it’s
Not stress ick. Is your tang still eating really good and being active? Are you running uv steralizers (not the clarifiers but the stage 2 version?).

Depending on your answers to the above would make me consider how I would proceed. Another way to help reduce stress is drop a 500mg vitamin c pill in your rodi water and let it dissolve along with a vitamin b12. These greatly reduce stress (even when full marine ick is present). Keep in mind that it’s been shown that the lethal dosage to kill marine ick just happens to
Be the same as for fish. Use caution, if this is your first time using copper, sometimes natural remedies are better.

 

[Kasey Grohowski]

Hello,

As I just recently experienced like two weeks ago are you sure this is actually ick and not stress induced ick? The reason I bring this up is, my purple tang and Lt tang one day showed up with ick. No other fish have shown any signs, and all fish have been there for 19 months.

Now each tank is different but I increased feeding, added probiabotic flake food and switched to a better frozen food. I also went from one cap full of garlic guard a day to three. Within 3 days the spots stayed off and still haven’t come back and or any of my other fish, even my ick magnets blue hippo tang have shown no signs.

Yes it’s better to be safe than sorry, but I’m not sure how new your tank is and or your tang is either. If they are brand new I agree with the rest do the main treatments now and know for sure. But if he has been in there for over s year like mine have been I would slow down and make sure it’s
Not stress ick. Is your tang still eating really good and being active? Are you running uv steralizers (not the clarifiers but the stage 2 version?).

Depending on your answers to the above would make me consider how I would proceed. Another way to help reduce stress is drop a 500mg vitamin c pill in your rodi water and let it dissolve along with a vitamin b12. These greatly reduce stress (even when full marine ick is present).

Nothing changed in routine so I assume it's not stress related. I had the fish for 3 weeks, it's in my quarantine tank. I feed dried seaweed and API fish flakes. I will try the probiotic flakes, which brand do you use?

 

[Sarah24!]

Nothing changed in routine so I assume it's not stress related. I had the fish for 3 weeks, it's in my quarantine tank. I feed dried seaweed and API fish flakes. I will try the probiotic flakes, which brand do you use?

Hello,

I use cobalt marine vegi with probiatic and use three capfuls of garlic guard with high end frozen mysis. Since this is only three weeks old my gut says normal ick, and since he isn’t in the display I would treat regardless. But as some may disagree from a medical point of view copper is last resort. If your tang improves and I would leave him in there for min of 60 days, copper is not good on fish. If the spots come back in a few days (and if it’s full marine ick it will and in force), then treat with copper and I would still do the 30 days of therapeutic treatment, then move to a secondary take to observe for 30-60 days. If you plan on adding more fish I would do this all at the same time, since they can build some immunity to it.

 

[ngoodermuth]

Just to clarify one thing, crypto is a protozoan parasite, so it’s not something that is directly related to stress. It’s either in the tank, or it’s not.

My fish can get stressed to high-heaven, they might even die... but they won’t break out in crypto... because it’s not in my tank. It IS possible to have an ich-free tank, the hard part is keeping it that way. In order to not break out again, you need to remain diligent with QT, and QT everything wet.

Back to the other question, super ick cure liquid is malachite green. I personally would not mix that with copper, mostly because both are fairly harsh on their own. If it were the powder form (nitrofurazone, which is an antibiotic commonly used with copper) I wouldn’t be as worried about it.

I would do a sizable water-change prior to starting copper to be safe.