The most abundant bacteria on reefs have an unexpectedly fast growth rate (article)

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New study challenges some dogmas about marine microbial life (phys.org)

Typically, bacterial growth rates are calculated by simply counting cells over time, but if you have a type that is dying/getting eaten fast and also dividing fast then the population can look static even though it's actually a fast grower. Some researchers decided to use a different technique where they microscopically look at individual cells and see what portion of them are in the process of cell division to estimate the growth rates that way. For most bacteria, this gave the same results as expected from the typical total cell count method, but not for all bacteria.

The single most abundant group of bacteria in the open ocean and on reefs was found to have a mismatch.

"For example, we found that the most common group of bacteria in the ocean, called SAR11, divides almost ten times faster than assumed." Moreover, in many cases the measured growth rates do not match the abundance of the respective bacteria in the water.

"If bacteria divide often but are not abundant, it suggests that they are a popular victim of predators or viruses," Brüwer explains. "The timing of bacterial proliferation was also surprising: SAR11 bacteria frequently divided before the onset of the algal bloom in the North Sea. From where they took the required energy to do so is still a mystery."


This group of bacteria shows up in our aqubiomics reports as "pelagibacteraceae". And it's interesting in a few ways...

It's a low nutrient bacteria - it grows better on seawater controls than on nutrients from algae or corals. It dominates the cell counts in low nutrient reefs/open ocean. For these reasons and because the numbers tend to be pretty stable, it was assumed to be a slow grower with slow die-off and low levels of predation. In the hobby it is a very significant member of our microbiome - unless you run UV. No other bacterial family is affected nearly as much by UV. For the pelagibacteraceae, UV is like an on/off switch.

Until now, it has been assumed that SAR11, which have very small cells, get by with little nutrients, do not divide very often and are eaten only rarely because of their small size. In contrast, other larger bacteria, for example the Bacteroidetes, are seen as popular food, multiplying quickly and disappearing just as quickly when predators and viruses get on their trail. The new study by Brüwer and his colleagues paints a very different picture.


"Our results influence our understanding of element cycles, especially the carbon cycle, in the ocean," Brüwer says. "The most abundant bacteria in the ocean, SAR11, are more active and divide faster than previously believed. This could mean that they need fewer nutrients and are a more popular food source for other organisms than suspected. Also, the general turnover of bacteria during algal blooms seems to be faster than we thought."


Here's @AquaBiomics talking about this group of bacteria in reefs and our tanks.
talk at PNWMAS meeting (59:50 in video)
 

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Thank you for the information
 

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Aquabiomics pelagibacteraceae writeup:

https://aquabiomics.com/info/prokaryotes/pelagibacteraceae

Whether by coral consuming pelagibacteraceae (and various other bacteria) via mucus netting. or virus predation (phages), it's not surprising that a very abundant and fast replicating food source is taken advantage of.
 

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New study challenges some dogmas about marine microbial life (phys.org)

Typically, bacterial growth rates are calculated by simply counting cells over time, but if you have a type that is dying/getting eaten fast and also dividing fast then the population can look static even though it's actually a fast grower. Some researchers decided to use a different technique where they microscopically look at individual cells and see what portion of them are in the process of cell division to estimate the growth rates that way. For most bacteria, this gave the same results as expected from the typical total cell count method, but not for all bacteria.

The single most abundant group of bacteria in the open ocean and on reefs was found to have a mismatch.

"For example, we found that the most common group of bacteria in the ocean, called SAR11, divides almost ten times faster than assumed." Moreover, in many cases the measured growth rates do not match the abundance of the respective bacteria in the water.

"If bacteria divide often but are not abundant, it suggests that they are a popular victim of predators or viruses," Brüwer explains. "The timing of bacterial proliferation was also surprising: SAR11 bacteria frequently divided before the onset of the algal bloom in the North Sea. From where they took the required energy to do so is still a mystery."


This group of bacteria shows up in our aqubiomics reports as "pelagibacteraceae". And it's interesting in a few ways...

It's a low nutrient bacteria - it grows better on seawater controls than on nutrients from algae or corals. It dominates the cell counts in low nutrient reefs/open ocean. For these reasons and because the numbers tend to be pretty stable, it was assumed to be a slow grower with slow die-off and low levels of predation. In the hobby it is a very significant member of our microbiome - unless you run UV. No other bacterial family is affected nearly as much by UV. For the pelagibacteraceae, UV is like an on/off switch.

Until now, it has been assumed that SAR11, which have very small cells, get by with little nutrients, do not divide very often and are eaten only rarely because of their small size. In contrast, other larger bacteria, for example the Bacteroidetes, are seen as popular food, multiplying quickly and disappearing just as quickly when predators and viruses get on their trail. The new study by Brüwer and his colleagues paints a very different picture.


"Our results influence our understanding of element cycles, especially the carbon cycle, in the ocean," Brüwer says. "The most abundant bacteria in the ocean, SAR11, are more active and divide faster than previously believed. This could mean that they need fewer nutrients and are a more popular food source for other organisms than suspected. Also, the general turnover of bacteria during algal blooms seems to be faster than we thought."


Here's @AquaBiomics talking about this group of bacteria in reefs and our tanks.
talk at PNWMAS meeting (59:50 in video)
IMHO - no one - including this article knows what's happening on the reef. First one has to accept the 'fact' that xxxx bacteria is the most populous in the ocean. Second one has to accept that this bacteria affects reef tanks.
 

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I would enjoy hearing the author or other knowledgeable persons' opinions on how we can use this to our benefit in the hobby. It makes me think about stability: is this achieved faster than previously thought? Should we as hobbyists even enlarge our already big opinion on this variable's influence? Is there some benefit in seeding your tank with type A bacteria vs type B?

Thank you for posting! Other's may say that this data is of little value since we cannot know "everything" that happens on a reef--but that's how science works: you learn a little here and a little there...and over time the broader community begins to understand a system well.
 

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@taricha I just want to thank you sharing this, and really all the content you share.

Your incredible curiosity’s coupled with a thoughtful approach, is a shining example of what’s best about this forum. I really appreciate all you share with the community. Keep it coming, please!
 

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New study challenges some dogmas about marine microbial life (phys.org)

Typically, bacterial growth rates are calculated by simply counting cells over time, but if you have a type that is dying/getting eaten fast and also dividing fast then the population can look static even though it's actually a fast grower. Some researchers decided to use a different technique where they microscopically look at individual cells and see what portion of them are in the process of cell division to estimate the growth rates that way. For most bacteria, this gave the same results as expected from the typical total cell count method, but not for all bacteria.

The single most abundant group of bacteria in the open ocean and on reefs was found to have a mismatch.

"For example, we found that the most common group of bacteria in the ocean, called SAR11, divides almost ten times faster than assumed." Moreover, in many cases the measured growth rates do not match the abundance of the respective bacteria in the water.

"If bacteria divide often but are not abundant, it suggests that they are a popular victim of predators or viruses," Brüwer explains. "The timing of bacterial proliferation was also surprising: SAR11 bacteria frequently divided before the onset of the algal bloom in the North Sea. From where they took the required energy to do so is still a mystery."


This group of bacteria shows up in our aqubiomics reports as "pelagibacteraceae". And it's interesting in a few ways...

It's a low nutrient bacteria - it grows better on seawater controls than on nutrients from algae or corals. It dominates the cell counts in low nutrient reefs/open ocean. For these reasons and because the numbers tend to be pretty stable, it was assumed to be a slow grower with slow die-off and low levels of predation. In the hobby it is a very significant member of our microbiome - unless you run UV. No other bacterial family is affected nearly as much by UV. For the pelagibacteraceae, UV is like an on/off switch.

Until now, it has been assumed that SAR11, which have very small cells, get by with little nutrients, do not divide very often and are eaten only rarely because of their small size. In contrast, other larger bacteria, for example the Bacteroidetes, are seen as popular food, multiplying quickly and disappearing just as quickly when predators and viruses get on their trail. The new study by Brüwer and his colleagues paints a very different picture.


"Our results influence our understanding of element cycles, especially the carbon cycle, in the ocean," Brüwer says. "The most abundant bacteria in the ocean, SAR11, are more active and divide faster than previously believed. This could mean that they need fewer nutrients and are a more popular food source for other organisms than suspected. Also, the general turnover of bacteria during algal blooms seems to be faster than we thought."


Here's @AquaBiomics talking about this group of bacteria in reefs and our tanks.
talk at PNWMAS meeting (59:50 in video)
If bacteria have adequate food (and limited competition) they will grow exponentially. If not they will decline. The decline will not (should not) exceed the growth - unless the bacteria that are declining are going to be gone soon. - Which is exactly - what many people say - science says added bacteria has two effects 1) - the new bacteria take over 2) the old bacteria do not let the new bacteria take over.
 
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opinions on how we can use this to our benefit in the hobby. It makes me think about stability: is this achieved faster than previously thought? Should we as hobbyists even enlarge our already big opinion on this variable's influence? Is there some benefit in seeding your tank with type A bacteria vs type B?
These are the questions that we don't have good answers to, and you should be skeptical of someone selling you a product premised on a claimed answer to these things.

That this group is the most prominent in the ocean and among reefs has been a well repeated finding:
SAR11 Bacteria: The Most Abundant Plankton in the Oceans

But interpretation and application of that info is the much harder part. What they do, are they important etc are not things we have solid answers to.

All this stuff is sort of circumstantial.
We know corals eat bacteria and can get a big chunk of their energy budget from doing so. We know that these SAR11 bacteria are some of the most prevalent on pristine reefs. We don't know if these bacteria are eaten by coral or not. The evidence is weak.

Some might take the position that we should try to match the reef in any respect that we can, unless we have a good reason not to. If you took that position, you would avoid UV and carbon dosing, or high nutrients so this group has a good chance of being the most prevalent in your tank water.
I couldn't argue that you would be wrong to do that, but using that logic, you'd probably also want to add a bunch of the single cell cyanobacteria Prochlorococcus and Synechococcus, which are also super-abundant in reef water. But I don't see anybody rushing to sell bottles of those cyano to hobbyists. Nor are hobbyists clamoring to pour cyano cells in their tanks.


Sorry, that was ramble-y.
On stability, I think it does matter and the bacterial community is slower to settle than we think. It seems much slower to settle than measurable chemical parameters.

On A bacteria vs B: unless A or B are pathogens - it's really hard to get a solid answer on what is better. So we're left to just reason from "does it look like a reef community (or a hobby reef tank community)?" which we can kind of answer sometimes, and "how much should we care?" which we just make up our own answers to :)
 

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