The real Black Box light study

dantimdad · Jul 1, 2019

Those won't be posted in this thread. This one is for measurements of black box lights only.

Take a look at this thread for some nice pics:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/80g-shallow-reef-build.463125/

Manose · Jul 3, 2019

Due to logistics and other issues I will no longer be doing any further testing or work in this thread. Testing will be in good hands with @dantimdad.
Thank you to all that supported my tests, and I hope it helped many of you get more information on some lower cost lighting.
Thanks,
Matt

Nep2nzReef · Jul 3, 2019

Thanks @Manose for getting this all started and the time/money you've put into it. Very much appreciated.

Jonathan Troutt · Jul 3, 2019

@Manose @dantimdad

Either of you have a spectrum graph or whatever it is calles for the viparspectras?

ph123uk · Jul 3, 2019

So will @dantimdad be using the same seneye and tank for the up coming tests?

dantimdad · Jul 3, 2019

I will be using the same brand and size of tank.

I will be using a seneye and an apogee.

Jonathan Troutt · Jul 5, 2019

@dantimdad

Do you have the ability to provide SPD(Spectral Power Distribution) one the lights that have been tested?

I have recently learned that Par doesnt mean **** if the spectrum isnt right.

dantimdad · Jul 5, 2019

No. The lights tested were done for PAR only.

Sorry.

Jonathan Troutt · Jul 5, 2019

dantimdad said:
No. The lights tested were done for PAR only.

Sorry.

This is really disappointing.

especially cause the seneye tries to provide this data from what ive seen. @Manose maybe you have this data saved from the tests?
It was talked about in the beginning providing spectrum percentage or something of the sorts. Just confused on why this critical piece of information was not included

Manose · Jul 5, 2019

Jonathan Troutt said:
This is really disappointing.

especially cause the seneye tries to provide this data from what ive seen. @Manose maybe you have this data saved from the tests?
It was talked about in the beginning providing spectrum percentage or something of the sorts. Just confused on why this critical piece of information was not included

I still have all the Seneye data. I can re-post it if needed.

Jonathan Troutt · Jul 5, 2019

Manose said:
I still have all the Seneye data. I can re-post it if needed.

That would be amazing if you still have those spectrum charts. I couldn't find them in the thread.

Manose · Jul 5, 2019

Jonathan Troutt said:
That would be amazing if you still have those spectrum charts. I couldn't find them in the thread.

I will try and post them later tonight or tomorrow as there is a lot at 17 per light

Jonathan Troutt · Jul 5, 2019

Manose said:
I will try and post them later tonight or tomorrow as there is a lot at 17 per light

No rush man i appreciate you taking the time to do it!

dz6t · Jul 7, 2019

dantimdad said:
The tests will continue. I just acquired a 60 cube that needs some work.

We are working on the noopsycheusa.com website and planning for MACNA.

The whole point in this is to be honest and unbiased so before anyone pointed it out, I will let you know that I am the official rep and distributor for the U.S.

This will in NO WAY change the outcome of the testing once it resumes. @Dana Riddle has already tested these lights. His results are publicly viewable so we can't fudge the numbers.

I will update as soon as I am back at it.

I also have received a light to test from someone so I will be ready as soon as the tank is. :)

The par numbers presented in this study are valid, as I did some testing as well and confirmed with similar par numbers.

dz6t · Jul 7, 2019

I also looked into the led business and worked and still work with several led manufacturers. The higher market price of many named brand led fixtures are paying for their research and development, especially software engineering. Marketing and customer service are some of the biggest expenses for domestic led manufacturers.