The ultimate Mangrove thread!!

[SauceyReef]

Agreed thank you - great info. Mine is a red, or black? Can you even tell from the photo?

 

[lbacha]

Agreed thank you - great info. Mine is a red, or black? Can you even tell from the photo?

Based on the size of the propagule on yours I would say red. Black mangrove propagule are only and inch or so.

 

[Ichtha_yo Stuff]

Here’s what 5 years of growth and pruning look like

 

[OrionN]

@SauceyReef
Your Mangrove, pictured below, is a Red Mangrove. Black mangrove has salt excretion on their leaves, while Red Mangrove does not take excessive salt into their cells, the excluded salt at the root level.

 

[OrionN]

Here is my Black Mangrove with flowers and seed.

 

[toi_ss]

Here is my Black Mangrove with flowers and seed.

Do you think I could set up an auto mister for black mangroves? I have been looking at adding some mangroves to my display tank but I am away frequently so wouldn't be able to mist them daily. Also the avicennia are the only genus available in my country.

 

[OrionN]

Do you think I could set up an auto mister for black mangroves? I have been looking at adding some mangroves to my display tank but I am away frequently so wouldn't be able to mist them daily. Also the avicennia are the only genus available in my country.

They don't really need to have a mister, or get their leave wet, but they do look better after the rain (or spray in my sump). Salt just builds up on the leaves, make them looks like a Dusty miller leaves. In the picture below, the powders is not dust, it's salt.

 

[SauceyReef]

They don't really need to have a mister, or get their leave wet, but they do look better after the rain (or spray in my sump). Salt just builds up on the leaves, make them looks like a Dusty miller leaves. In the picture below, the powders is not dust, it's salt.

That photo is a great testimonial to how black mangroves cant remove the salt themselves and rely on misting.

Yall have some amazing mangroves!

 

[toi_ss]

They don't really need to have a mister, or get their leave wet, but they do look better after the rain (or spray in my sump). Salt just builds up on the leaves, make them looks like a Dusty miller leaves. In the picture below, the powders is not dust, it's salt.

Okay thanks, do you think they will go alright just planted in a 10" deep pot filled with sand and maybe some coral rubble in my display tank?

 

[OrionN]

Okay thanks, do you think they will go alright just planted in a 10" deep pot filled with sand and maybe some coral rubble in my display tank?

Here in Corpus Christi Black Mangroves grow at the water line, submerged in water and growing inland. It is a beautiful plant, does not need salt water

 

[CHSUB]

Great Thread! My mangrove reef runs undetectable no3, po4, which is my preference. My mangrove is green and looks nice, however in 3 months has not grown. The tank is 5 months old and I have been thinking about root tabs around the mangrove. Has anyone done this?

 

[CHSUB]

Hey ya'll, I've been ghost following this thread for a while now but finally joined in now that I need something (isn't that how everyone gets here?). Do any mangrove experts have any tips for helping my tank thrive?

Story: I grew my red mangroves on my balcony in Miami from propagules I found washed up on the beach, 2 years ago. I had them growing in a custom built rhino-liner'ed plywood planter loaded with muck and sand alongside some Florida purslane (see attached). I'd inundate the planter with water once a week so that they were always sitting in some kind of mud. I had to move to NYC for 2 years and bringing a little bit of SoFlo with me became a top priority. I built a shelf-situation to hold a 29gal freshwater tank. The idea was to make it freshwater for easy maintenance, but fake a salt water situation with the fish and things as best as possible. I read as much as I could of Julian Sprung's mangrove manuals. As expected, the plants - now a year old - hated being moved from soil to free floating in water. I anchored them from above some oolite limestone rocks to encourage the root growth. There is no substrate other than some sand from the Bahamas (Julian said you don't need any substrate). I have ghost shrimp, mystery and nerite snails, 13 rasbora, 2 bola sharks, a red tailed shark and a leopard plecco that have gotten along now for about 6 months. I have a Felt Electric 86 watt grow light (full spectrum, 5600 lumens). I accidentally burned up the 2 younger generation mangroves I had and I set the lamp timer back from 12 hours to 8 hours per day about 2 weeks ago. With the two trees I have left, I've seen new growth. One plant still has curled leaves indicating it's getting too much light, but I expect that to resolve in a few more weeks since dialing back the light. I'vey fertilized the tank with capsules buried in the sand twice in the past 6 months. Using a canister filter.

I've been reading about adding Fe and Mg, but I still have a bunch of critters to keep happy. Not sure if adding nutrients will upset the balance. I'm also concerned that my light may not be the best for this setup. My goals are to get some nice roots down within the next year or so and start trimming above leaf couples to encourage more branches up top once the trees are happy. Trying to get as close to a mangrove bush over the top of this tank as I can. It's only been less than 6 months, but am I on the right track? Cease and desist?

What kind of capsules? My root tabs have copper and worried about using with corals.

 

[stE25wy14]

Here is my Black Mangrove with flowers and seed.

a mongrovenome XD
cause u the king of nems? :D

 

[stE25wy14]

do I need lights to keep a mangrove I have reef light duuuh, but can I just pop it in my back chamber and let it grow? or will It die? and my tank is infront of a window(with shades) another window next to that, and another one facing it

 

[twentyleagues]

do I need lights to keep a mangrove I have reef light duuuh, but can I just pop it in my back chamber and let it grow? or will It die? and my tank is infront of a window(with shades) another window next to that, and another one facing it

They need pretty intense lighting, so their own light source would be best. Something you can adjust height on as it grows.

 

[WalkerLovesTheOcean]

do I need lights to keep a mangrove I have reef light duuuh, but can I just pop it in my back chamber and let it grow? or will It die? and my tank is infront of a window(with shades) another window next to that, and another one facing it

All you need is a cheap grow light off of Amazon.

 

[twentyleagues]

All you need is a cheap grow light off of Amazon.

I am not going to disagree with that, but it leaves a lot for interpretation.

My best mangrove was in a pot with a 150w mh over it that I dumped about half of my skimmer cup into once a month air stone for circulation. I would check sg once a week and top off with fresh water. Grew 3x as fast as the ones in my fuge with a single t5 over them.

 

[WalkerLovesTheOcean]

I am not going to disagree with that, but it leaves a lot for interpretation.

My best mangrove was in a pot with a 150w mh over it that I dumped about half of my skimmer cup into once a month air stone for circulation. I would check sg once a week and top off with fresh water. Grew 3x as fast as the ones in my fuge with a single t5 over them.

Right. But Stewy asked if a reef light would grow his. I just cane up with the next cheapest option that would be good enough to grow the mangrove.

 

[twentyleagues]

Right. But Stewy asked if a reef light would grow his. I just cane up with the next cheapest option that would be good enough to grow the mangrove.

I think he meant the same one thats on his tank already as in just the ambient light from it reaching his all in one chamber. So yes he will need another light and there are plenty available from amazon but he needs to really look for something with some punch. For about $50 you can get a 6500k 150w led flood light that would probably work really well for it. Something like that would probably over shadow the reef lighting though.

 

[OrionN]

Mine was planted in a Tupperware 6x6x4 in the sump. It send roots and air root all over my sump
I lighted it with 4 LED flood lights, 6000K from Home Depo