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Found this picture on FB.

My wife and I love it but would like to do some research on the type of tree and the root system.

Any green thumb members know what type it is?

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That's definitely not a Japanese maple. It's a Maple tree of some kind, but I have a much larger silver Maple and it doesn't turn red.....just yellow. So, the answer you seek lies with the Maple variety, but probably not silver or japanese.
 
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Thanks for the replies.
We are positive it is a maple, just looking for a specific species.
I'm leaning towards October Glory Maple since it's a pretty common tree.

We are looking for 4-5 red leaf trees to put on our sidewalk as we own a corner lot in Los Angeles. The 2 things we need is red leaves and underground rooting system so the sidewalk will not get damaged from roots.

Any suggestions would be appreciated :)
 

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Thanks for the replies.
We are positive it is a maple, just looking for a specific species.
I'm leaning towards October Glory Maple since it's a pretty common tree.

We are looking for 4-5 red leaf trees to put on our sidewalk as we own a corner lot in Los Angeles. The 2 things we need is red leaves and underground rooting system so the sidewalk will not get damaged from roots.

Any suggestions would be appreciated :)
I'd say any tree you put near a sidewalk has the potential to disrupt the pavement. Especially 10+ years down the line if you plan on staying lol
 

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Not good with anything below tree species level.

Beautiful tree!

Have you looked in any forestry catalogs for something similar?

Would like to know the variety myself.
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Thanks for the reply all.

If anyone has any suggestions for a pink/red tree under 20' (does not need to be pink year around) with roots that are known to stay below ground, pls do post.
 

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Thanks for the reply all.

If anyone has any suggestions for a pink/red tree under 20' (does not need to be pink year around) with roots that are known to stay below ground, pls do post.
Do purple smoke trees do anything for you?

I am a wet, east coast gardener.
No clues about irrigated, low humidity, low/no frost gardens.

You could start by looking in the Sunset Garden book.

Sunset Western Garden brand was started in southern California for these exact reasons.
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Nothing really translates well from an East Coast garden perspective.

Kinda like a freshwater planted guy trying to advise you on sticks.
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East of the rockies is USDA cold zone hardiness (since late 1800s ?), then a secondary heat zone map (1990s) to deal with the constant heat and humidity of the South.

West coast is strictly Sunset territory for any useful information.
They have their own convoluted (and extremely useful!) maps for the West Coast.

Lol, follow the money.

USDA cold hardiness zones map was to compensate for moving from Englands mild climate USDA 7 (10 to 20F) to the frigid climate of New England, mostly USDA 5 and 6, but some Zone 4 (-20 to -10) back/up in the mountains.
It took a largely "new" plant list to thrive.
The interest/money was there.

Sunset garden brand started in southern California primarily.
It gets a lot more vague once you leave SoCal.
Since you are in the LA area, your Sunset Western garden info should be spot on.

Would love to hear what was suggested/what you chose.
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Looks like an autumn blaze acer/maple. If you want red thats shorter go with a weeping variety of japanese maple. Very structured colorful tree....and should do fine in your area.
 
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How are the tree choices coming?

Things were going great. Although we did not want to go bigger than a 25' tall tree, we some how really enjoy the Japanese Cherry Blossom that can reach 50' tall.
The top 3 candidates were...

Japanese Cherry Blossom
Japanese Maple
Redbud 'Forest Pansy' or 'Royal White'.

I say "were" because in my area, I must ask for permission and pull a permit to plant trees on my sidewalk and in my city, there is about 12 species of trees we can legally plant. The 3 mentioned are not on the list :(
 

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I am pretty sure that Japanese Maples do not grow in the full sun in So Cal.
I agree, I don't think it's a japanese maple. At least it doesn't exhibit a growth pattern like any I've seen - it has a much more columnar profile and growth preference to my eye.

Maybe a Liquidambar styraciflua would work if they wanted a tree with nice red fall color. They grow really well here in socal
 

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