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Soooo yeah had a nightmare the last week. And have no clue why 😮‍💨 my water parameters have been stable ,

Only been testing ammonia , nitrite , nitrate , salinity , ph



Which has all sat around these marks for last 2 months odd , tank is about 4 months old now . I do 10% water change a week but since been having problems been doing about 25/35 % water change every 5 days.



Ph: 8.3

Ammonia: 0.0

Nitrite: 0.0

Nitrate: 5.0/10.0

Salinity 1.023



Inhabitants:

One skunk cleaner shrimp

3 electric blue hermits

1 scarlet hermit

1 frogspawn coral

1 toadstall coral

1 Rasta Zoa

2 black clownfish

1 coral beauty (angelfish)



I had two clown fish from start (done cycle with) they suffered abit of fin rot through the cycle , nothing major and both recovered fine without medication, as it was very minor .

Went a month without ammonia or nitirite so I decide to add a coral beauty angel fish a couple corals and some clean up crew.



The beauty done well for the first week no visible signs or behaviour change , then one morning I woke up and the beauty wouldn’t stop hiding in the rocks so I thought something might be up , I checked waters and everything seemed fine so I thought something maybe she was getting bullied by the clownfish and they like to fight each other , but never see any evidence of this so …… about two days later the coral buety pectoral fins started to show cloudy spots (as coral beauty have clear pectoral fins with yellow lines) you could see the cloudy mark on the fin . Two days after that the fins where frayed and the fish was covered in white spots too many to count , (assumed it was velvet).



The whole time through this process my crabs , shrimp & coral are all thrieving , my zoa + frogspawn has double in size since I’ve had them(about a month) my toadstall hasn’t opened right in about a week but I’m suspecting it is shedding as no other corals or inverts and showing signs of stress .



Panicking now as have no qt tank , went to lfs they advised reef roids medic . Done a 2 week cycle , and the coral lost all white spots + fins looked better , clowns still had no signs .

Literally the next day I woke up , still on medication was the last day of a 2 week cycle . Beauty coral got worse wouldn’t swim properly and the clown now was covered in white spots. In the space of 24hours was seemingly over to the whole tank was on life support .

A week went past and lost the coral beauty and both clowns 😭 I feel horrible but I don’t know where to go from now as I still have inhabitants in the tank and don’t wanna strip it down and re cycle 😮‍💨 any thoughts on how I should go around this without risk of reinfecting inhabitants .
 

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Will wait for #fishmedics , but sounds like you cycled the tank with fish, which is not cool and was too stressful for the fish, they caught disease, and now your tank is diseased.

What size is the tank? I get the impression its a small tank? Can you show a tank picture?
 
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Will wait for #fishmedics , but sounds like you cycled the tank with fish, which is not cool and was too stressful for the fish, they caught disease, and now your tank is diseased.

What size is the tank? I get the impression it’s a small tank? Can you show a tank picture?
It’s a aqua one 120 mini reef 120litre display 30 litre sump (roughly) , I done a fish in cycle with live sand and bottle bacteria , I’m new to the hobby (this is what I was recommended by lfs) the clowns seemed fine as I stated through ammonia cycle , tiny inflation to fin over a couple days but with constant water changes if I saw any rise over 0.25 ammonia the cycle went well and my levels were stable for a good month/6weeks before I added any other livestock. I do have a pretty severe diatom/ algae problem atm but obviously is still a young tank so haven’t worried to much about that atm especially where I was trying to deal with the fish being ill and on medic I didn’t want to stress the fish any more than they where . I will send tank photos soon as I’m out atm
 

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It’s a aqua one 120 mini reef 120litre display 30 litre sump (roughly) , I done a fish in cycle with live sand and bottle bacteria , I’m new to the hobby (this is what I was recommended by lfs) the clowns seemed fine as I stated through ammonia cycle , tiny inflation to fin over a couple days but with constant water changes if I saw any rise over 0.25 ammonia the cycle went well and my levels were stable for a good month/6weeks before I added any other livestock. I do have a pretty severe diatom/ algae problem atm but obviously is still a young tank so haven’t worried to much about that atm especially where I was trying to deal with the fish being ill and on medic I didn’t want to stress the fish any more than they where . I will send tank photos soon as I’m out atm
Without pictures, I can’t say for sure, but this sounds like end stage ich. If you can see spots, it is usually ich. Velvet causes very rapid breathing, not eating and death in a few days.

What product did you use? Was it Polyp Lab Medic? It is a peroxide salt. That usually does not fully cure ich because its dose is very low so it doesn’t harm the invertebrates.
 

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I’m new to the hobby (this is what I was recommended by lfs)
good on you for finding this website... Unfortunately many LFS's will suggest to cycle with fish knowing its a 50/50 chance the fish will survive. Welcome to the website and good luck in your reefing and feel free to ask us questions, or to cross check anything the LFS tells you.
 
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good on you for finding this website... Unfortunately many LFS's will suggest to cycle with fish knowing there its a 50/50 chance the fish will survive. Welcome to the website and good luck in your reefing and feel free to ask us questions, or to cross check anything the LFS tells you.
Agree with one the greatest bands of all times. Remember, LFS are there to sell products. Which is needed to sustain the hobby. Just remember a few sayings - trust but verify and nothing good happens fast in a reef tank.
 

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