Velvet?

[TheRockPlayz]

I posted a few weeks ago and treated my fish for ich by quarantining my fish for weeks and then moved them back into the display tank and they did not get any white spots for 5 days then writhing 10 minutes of adding a new fish and hammer coral all my fish are covered with these white spots. I checked all my water parameters and the only thing that was kind of off was the salt at 1.027spg instead of 1.025. I use a sj wave 10 in 1 test kit. After less than 3 minutes of being in my tank a peppermint shrimp attacked and injured my hammer so I pulled it out and separated it and am currently trying to find out what to do with it then noticed minutes later all my fish had these spots. And now 11 hours later they are significantly worse. The orange clownfish is the new one and he had no visible spots prior to being added, he did have some bites on him from an aggressive clown in the fish store tank.

 

[TheRockPlayz]

The only medicine I have is Top fin ich remedy - any diagnoses? I plan on quarantining the corals and snails so I can medicate the tank

 

[Jay Hemdal]

The only medicine I have is Top fin ich remedy - any diagnoses? I plan on quarantining the corals and snails so I can medicate the tank

Top Fin is a freshwater ich treatment, it won't work on marine fish (even if the bottle says it will!).

I suspect that the ich was still dormant in your tank from the previous infection and it started up again. To truly eliminate ich, you need to hold the infected tank for at least 60 days with no fish in it, then the ich parasite will die out. Your previous posts were just 3 weeks ago, that isn't long enough.

Proper ich treatments cannot be performed in a tank that houses corals or other invertebrates. You mentioned a hammer coral - you can't treat the fish in the same tank then.

The two best treatments are coppersafe or hyposalinity (low salinity). Both need to be done for 30 days, and then the fish not returned to the original tank for another 30 days.

If you post another video of the fish, we can try to confirm the ich diagnosis.

 

[winxp_man]

What Jay said!! I have tried many a things and conclusion has been copper power at 2.25 min ppm and a max of 2.50 ppm. Checked with Hanna checker.

I dump my fish directly in 2.35ppm. Fish that I have seen the ich on. And within two three days they clear up. No need to ramp for angles, clowns, tangs, have done a few wrasses. Copper starts working right away. Not saying it will completely kill everything within two three days. But it will start working as the fish sheds velvet or ich.

Have tried even ich x when I first got into reefing. Did not work whatsoever.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Recommended ich and even velvet- you will need to place fish in Quarantine tank and treat with Coppersafe or Copper Power at therapeutic level 2.25 for a FULL 30 days (do not interrupt this 30 day period) monitored with a Hanna Brand copper test kit- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone. All other fish in with it should also be removed as they have also been exposed to the parasites and placed in quarantine tank.
The display tank will have to be kept fishless (FALLOW) for 6-8 weeks to assure the existing parasites go through their life cycle without a host fish and die off.
I dont recommend 2.35 in the event of test kit error

 

[Mebbid]

Ich is a PITA to treat, and I'd be willing to bet most people have it in their tanks. Maintaining a stress free tank with healthy feeding and parameters is the general method for preventing big outbreaks.

For treating, this video can help

 

[TheRockPlayz]

The only medicine I have is Top fin ich remedy - any diagnoses? I plan on quarantining the corals and snails so I can medicate the tank

Top Fin is a freshwater ich treatment, it won't work on marine fish (even if the bottle says it will!).

I suspect that the ich was still dormant in your tank from the previous infection and it started up again. To truly eliminate ich, you need to hold the infected tank for at least 60 days with no fish in it, then the ich parasite will die out. Your previous posts were just 3 weeks ago, that isn't long enough.

Proper ich treatments cannot be performed in a tank that houses corals or other invertebrates. You mentioned a hammer coral - you can't treat the fish in the same tank then.

The two best treatments are coppersafe or hyposalinity (low salinity). Both need to be done for 30 days, and then the fish not returned to the original tank for another 30 days.

If you post another video of the fish, we can try to confirm the ich diagnosis.

3 weeks ago my water shot up in salinity and the fish had spots on them and all spots disappeared after 2 days without treatment and didn’t come back - I treated (or tried with the wrong treatment) for 2 weeks because i thought it was mucus cones. I put my fish back into the tank and watched for spots for 5 days with no spots appearing then within 10 minutes of a new fish they all had spots. Would this be consistent with ich?

 

[vetteguy53081]

3 weeks ago my water shot up in salinity and the fish had spots on them and all spots disappeared after 2 days without treatment and didn’t come back - I treated (or tried with the wrong treatment) for 2 weeks because i thought it was mucus cones. I put my fish back into the tank and watched for spots for 5 days with no spots appearing then within 10 minutes of a new fish they all had spots. Would this be consistent with ich?

Mixed in with ich why coppersafe is recommended

 

[MnFish1]

Ich is a PITA to treat, and I'd be willing to bet most people have it in their tanks. Maintaining a stress free tank with healthy feeding and parameters is the general method for preventing big outbreaks.

For treating, this video can help

I think the advice already given is correct - copper. Velvet is uncommon in reef tanks. Thanks for the video!!.

 

[Reefing addict Clay]

I had a purple tang years ago that had bad ich like bad I thought it want going to live honestly and then my clown tang showed it to. I swear by this because not only did it live but it never came back and that it selcon and garlic. When I fed my fish I would let food defrost with 2 full eye dropper of selcon and half eye dropper of garlic. My tank was a 205 with a 70g sump so I wasn’t worried about adding to much to my tank but aslong as it’s eating you have a good chance of it living also but the nori with garlic extract in it and feed it as they love nori and that will get garlic in his system. I admit I was doing overkill on the amount I fed but I wasn’t worried about it since I had so much water to displace it but I swear by selcon and garlic for saving my fish cause there was no way I could have catched it and put it in qt with copper which obviously stresses them out like crazy