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I would think it does act on the dinos within the tissue of the coral. I'm sure the ones that perish are just absorbed or broken down by the coral cells.
 

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I would think it does act on the dinos within the tissue of the coral. I'm sure the ones that perish are just absorbed or broken down by the coral cells.
I monitor the tank all day for any signs of zooanthelle expulsion or loss.
So far no findings of this reaction.
 

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I didn't change any water during the 3 days as the half life is short just like h2o2
My wife has a book on every medication out there with any wanted info ;)

1/2 life of metronidazole is about 8 hours in humans but that is with liver and kidneys metabolizing and excreting drug. Curious, what makes you suggest it is similar in a reef tank

Wonder if fish get nauseous when vodka dosing and metro tx, lol
 

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I monitor the tank all day for any signs of zooanthelle expulsion or loss.
So far no findings of this reaction.

Oops...sorry I thought you said on the dinoflagellates in the coral tissue. Why would it harm the zooanthelle?

Half life is determined by how fast the drug is eliminated/metabolized by the organism is used in. Those half life figures are for humans or the drugs intended target use. In our tanks I'd be reluctant to guess if/how fast it's eliminated by our skimmers, the inhabitants of the tank and the test of our filtration system.
 
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Manny, I'm glad that you gave my method a try and I'm glad that it worked for you. It just goes to show that weather you use my or twilliards method there's some major progress being made to treat one of the worst things we have to deal with as reefers! That is one of the things I love about this hobby, there is always treatments or processes evolving that push ahead from where we are now in the hobby. Also manny thank you for trusting that my process will work even though you and I do not know each other or have even spoken to one another other than on here. Also a big thank you to Twilliard for chiming in on this topic!
 

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Oops...sorry I thought you said on the dinoflagellates in the coral tissue. Why would it harm the zooanthelle?

Half life is determined by how fast the drug is eliminated/metabolized by the organism is used in. Those half life figures are for humans or the drugs intended target use. In our tanks I'd be reluctant to guess if/how fast it's eliminated by our skimmers, the inhabitants of the tank and the test of our filtration system.
The zooanthelle is a dinoflagellate which made me worry that I would loose the corals.
I am assuming the biological life such as the dinoflagellates may make the lifespan of the medicine short.
So what is protecting the zooanthelle within the coral? Such a great question.
I have no way to test the presence of the medicine in the water so I have been watching internal cell structure and activity to get an idea. As I move on with this I will have a better understanding of metronidazole.
 

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Manny, I'm glad that you gave my method a try and I'm glad that it worked for you. It just goes to show that weather you use my or twilliards method there's some major progress being made to treat one of the worst things we have to deal with as reefers! That is one of the things I love about this hobby, there is always treatments or processes evolving that push ahead from where we are now in the hobby. Also manny thank you for trusting that my process will work even though you and I do not know each other or have even spoken to one another other than on here. Also a big thank you to Twilliard for chiming in on this topic!
Sorry no intentions on hijacking your thread at all. Just information thank you for sharing with me :)
 

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Maybe we should make seperate threads for this. I don't even have dinos but I like seeing the hobby progress and after reading this it can be confusing to the average joe keeping the methods apart and successes.
 

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The zooanthelle is a dinoflagellate which made me worry that I would loose the corals.

I'm confused. I thought zooanthelle were algae, not protozoans? The target life forms typically don't metabolize/breakdown the antibiotic, usually it's the infected animal that does. In the aquarium I really don't know what eliminates it other than our filtration (carbon, skimmer, etc.)
 

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I'm confused. I thought zooanthelle were algae, not protozoans? The target life forms typically don't metabolize/breakdown the antibiotic, usually it's the infected animal that does. In the aquarium I really don't know what eliminates it other than our filtration (carbon, skimmer, etc.)
Zooanthelle are a family of dinoflagellates :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooxanthellae
 

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Hot dang! I didn't realize it but I already had Metronidazole on hand in my fish medication stash! :D Lets see if this can finally put an end to these nasty creatures.

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Manny, I'm glad that you gave my method a try and I'm glad that it worked for you. It just goes to show that weather you use my or twilliards method there's some major progress being made to treat one of the worst things we have to deal with as reefers! That is one of the things I love about this hobby, there is always treatments or processes evolving that push ahead from where we are now in the hobby. Also manny thank you for trusting that my process will work even though you and I do not know each other or have even spoken to one another other than on here. Also a big thank you to Twilliard for chiming in on this topic!
Well it's now been 3 days since i uncovered tank and returned to my normal lighting schedule...no dinos!
Don't know if it's too early to tell but they might be gone!...[emoji16] [emoji106]
 
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Well it's now been 3 days since i uncovered tank and returned to my normal lighting schedule...no dinos!
Don't know if it's too early to tell but they might be gone!...[emoji16] [emoji106]

That's great Manny, I knew that it would work for you brotha, thanks again for having faith. now you can get back to enjoying your tank instead of dealing with them things! Keep me updated bud.
 

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That's great Manny, I knew that it would work for you brotha, thanks again for having faith. now you can get back to enjoying your tank instead of dealing with them things! Keep me updated bud.
Yessir!
Btw hownlong before you di a WC?
 
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I think I waited a couple of weeks but then again it is hard me to get nitrate to show in my tank so I don't do to many waterchanges to begin with, only when my PO4 starts to get up there.
 

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