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[andrews55]

Hi any one have any idea what this mark could be on clownfish face or what course of action to take thanks

 

[fishguy777]

Hi any one have any idea what this mark could be on clownfish face or what course of action to take thanks

Fungus, treat with metroplex+kanaplex+searchum focus, and throw in selcon to give extra nutrients

Use all these in the fish’s food.

 

[andrews55]

Thank you for the reply do I mix the metroplex and kanaplex in the same batch of food or do it separate

 

[Sharkbait19]

Fungal infections are quite rare in saltwater - I don’t think that is what you are seeing.
Metro in food also can be a bit tricky - to get it to a proper dose, most fish find it too bitter tasting and won’t eat it.
The issue does look bacterial, so I agree kanaplex (in a separate qt) is the way to go.

 

[andrews55]

Fungal infections are quite rare in saltwater - I don’t think that is what you are seeing.
Metro in food also can be a bit tricky - to get it to a proper dose, most fish find it too bitter tasting and won’t eat it.
The issue does look bacterial, so I agree kanaplex (in a separate qt) is the way to go.

I have had a problem with another male in the same tank that’s had a mark on his face a bit different to this I just thought it was down to a bite mark from the female possibly but someone said about a brissle worm but the tank is bare apart from flowerpots and I haven’t seen anything unusual in there the pairs are separate as well in my other tanks all the other clowns are fine it’s just this tank that the males have had strange marks on there face thanks

 

[MnFish1]

This is not a fungal infection. and the antibiotics recommended do not treat fungal infections. Additionally I would not recommend feeding medication - as it's impossible to dose. Let's start at the start - where/how did you get the fish, was it quarantined? How long have you had it - with which other fish do you have it?

These types of lesions often appear with shipping - and some clowns show them temporarily. Is it getting better, worse, staying the same?

In all honesty, pink/red is always a worry for infection - if you have the ability - I would treat in a hospital tank with a broad spectrum antibiotic like neoplex or kanaplex. I would not use metronidazole. Just follow the directions on the bottle. This may be merely an injury - but it may deserve treatment - which is low-risk.

 

[andrews55]

This is not a fungal infection. and the antibiotics recommended do not treat fungal infections. Additionally I would not recommend feeding medication - as it's impossible to dose. Let's start at the start - where/how did you get the fish, was it quarantined? How long have you had it - with which other fish do you have it?

These types of lesions often appear with shipping - and some clowns show them temporarily. Is it getting better, worse, staying the same?

In all honesty, pink/red is always a worry for infection - if you have the ability - I would treat in a hospital tank with a broad spectrum antibiotic like neoplex or kanaplex. I would not use metronidazole. Just follow the directions on the bottle. This may be merely an injury - but it may deserve treatment - which is low-risk.

I’ve had the fish for about 5-6 months now it was posted to me it was fine when I got it it’s only today I have noticed this on its face and the other fish which is another Picasso have been together since then they seem to get on good no real aggression between them they swim around together and sleep in the same pot together and rarely leave each others side

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Fungus, treat with metroplex+kanaplex+searchum focus, and throw in selcon to give extra nutrients

Use all these in the fish’s food.

No - that won’t work. Kanaplex is toxic if not dosed accurately. This isn’t a fungus, external fungus is very rare in marine fish, besides, those drugs do t treat fungal infections.

 

[andrews55]

No - that won’t work. Kanaplex is toxic if not dosed accurately. This isn’t a fungus, external fungus is very rare in marine fish, besides, those drugs do t treat fungal infections.

What would you say is the best thing to do thanks

 

[Jay Hemdal]

What would you say is the best thing to do thanks

Tough to say with much certainty. The two most common causes seem to have been ruled out: stings from some animal in the tank or tankmate aggression.
Is the lesion ONLY on the fish’s right side, or are there some marks on the left side?
The fish is showing NO other symptoms, right?

 

[andrews55]

Tough to say with much certainty. The two most common causes seem to have been ruled out: stings from some animal in the tank or tankmate aggression.
Is the lesion ONLY on the fish’s right side, or are there some marks on the left side?
The fish is showing NO other symptoms, right?

Saying about tankmate aggression i put a new light on them the last few days that goes blue at night I went and had a look last night again and I noticed that as soon as the light goes to the blue dark mode for some reason the female completely turns on the male and starts aggressively attacking him and chasing him down turned it back to normal white with slight blue and they where fine letting him back in the pot and swimming around together normally back to blue and the aggression started again so switched the light completely off and there where both in the pot just the blue light changed the female to attack the male so I don’t know if the damage has come from her when blue light has been on, and yes it’s just the one side of his face and not showing any signs of anything else

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Saying about tankmate aggression i put a new light on them the last few days that goes blue at night I went and had a look last night again and I noticed that as soon as the light goes to the blue dark mode for some reason the female completely turns on the male and starts aggressively attacking him and chasing him down turned it back to normal white with slight blue and they where fine letting him back in the pot and swimming around together normally back to blue and the aggression started again so switched the light completely off and there where both in the pot just the blue light changed the female to attack the male so I don’t know if the damage has come from her when blue light has been on, and yes it’s just the one side of his face and not showing any signs of anything else

Weird - I've never seen tankmate aggression change due to lighting changes - but you saw it, so it is happening, I just can't tell you why.

Then, tankmate aggression can be a weird thing - dynamics can change over time, and also change due to dynamics within a tank; I once had a fishes of the Red Sea tank where a sohal tang would attack a paucofasciatus butterfly, which in turn would attack another fish, which would then go after a third fish - sort of like a chicken pecking order - I've never seen that before or since.

 

[fishguy777]

No - that won’t work. Kanaplex is toxic if not dosed accurately. This isn’t a fungus, external fungus is very rare in marine fish, besides, those drugs do t treat fungal infections.

They treated my Achilles with fungus, he went from on brink of death to 90% better in two days.

It’s really hard to mess up a kanaplex dose, they make the instructions very clear, it’s 1 scoop per tbsp of food

 

[fishguy777]

Hi any one have any idea what this mark could be on clownfish face or what course of action to take thanks

Even if it’s not fungal, possibly bacterial in which metroplex would fix

 

[Jay Hemdal]

They treated my Achilles with fungus, he went from on brink of death to 90% better in two days.

It’s really hard to mess up a kanaplex dose, they make the instructions very clear, it’s 1 scoop per tbsp of food

Kanaplex is an antibiotic, not an anti-fungal drug. The dose for oral Kanaplex is 50 mg per kg of fish biomass daily for five days. If you don't know the mass of the fish being treated, there is no way you can know if the dose is correct. Overdose can cause nephrotoxicity, an underdose obviously won't work.

I've worked out ways to properly estimate the oral doses for medications, but it is not easy to do:

Proper Dosing of Medicated Foods

Proper Dosing of Medicated Foods Jay Hemdal c. 2020 Oral medications are an excellent way to target internal diseases of fishes. Marine fish absorb aquarium water, so in certain cases, they “drink” enough medication from the water to effect a cure. However, freshwater fish actively export...

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We also have a calculator to help folks with proper dosing:

Fish Disease Calculators

During the course of caring for our fish, we often need to make calculations regarding several recommended treatment options. Most water quality maintenance steps are supported by calculations provided in the "Reef Chemistry by Randy Holmes Farley" forum. Taking it a step further, additional...

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Jay

 

[MnFish1]

Even if it’s not fungal, possibly bacterial in which metroplex would fix

Apologetically, this is (possibly) incorrect. Metronidazole is not generally anywhere as efficient kanamycin as an antibiotic in situations like this - it has a much different spectrum of action for bacterial infections. Second - Kanaplex nor metronidazole treat fungal issues. I don't know what your fish had, but - sorry to suggest that it did not recover due to those medications. Additionally, what happens if the fish eats too much (or nothing) - there is a possibility of over or under-dosing.

I am guessing that what you thought was a fungal infection was a viral infection that would have resolved on its own - or - a bacterial infection.

I'm sorry to be blunt - but - the goal here is to give correct information. I think @Jay Hemdal did a good job explaining why this mixture won't help and is difficult for the average home hobbyist to accomplish. I hope you don't take this in the wrong way.