220 gallon stand build.

[Ann Enomy]

I'm pretty sure I'm overbuilding for this 6 foot 210, but If anyone can comment I would appreciate it. Basic design is similar to the one associated with Rocket engineer's post. The design changes are as follows:
1. I am using 2X5 (actual measurement) Clear hard maple for the horizontal tank support and 2 x 4 (actual) clear hard maple for vertical members including center braces. I assume Hard maple is much stronger so should be no issues there.
2. Instead of using screws I would like to use 10mmx50mm domino's and tightbond 3.
3 I would like to not "skin" the frame on 3 sides with plywood rather use inset doors on front and sides, Plywood on back.
4. I would also be using a top on this stand made from curly maple oversized about 3" on front and sides. Every table I have built uses fasteners that allows for expansion and contraction. Is that still a good Idea seeing that a ton will be sitting on top of it?

Stand will be painted with flat black 2k Poly and top will be clear 2k poly (centurion). I think It should be pretty sharp with the blond figured wood top on black cabinet. doing open top this time so no canopy. For reference, this Is the tank that I'm replacing. Built that stand about 15 years ago.

 

[Ann Enomy]

Also forgot to ask about leveling feet. Was thinking one under each vertical member for a total of 6 or maybe 2 at each corner ( spaced 3" from corner, still under vertical members) for a total of 10

 

[Fish Fan]

Good questions for @BeanAnimal or possibly @Troylee if they have minute to reply.

I'm not sure I would rely on just the glue and Domino's alone with a tank of this size, but I'm just guessing.

Your wooden top may be prone to expansion and contraction across the width of the boards. I think it's probably a good idea to use the table top fasteners that allow for wood movement.

What wood and finish did you use on the old stand?

Good luck with your new build!

 

[theclownshow]

I'm pretty sure I'm overbuilding for this 6 foot 210, but If anyone can comment I would appreciate it. Basic design is similar to the one associated with Rocket engineer's post. The design changes are as follows:
1. I am using 2X5 (actual measurement) Clear hard maple for the horizontal tank support and 2 x 4 (actual) clear hard maple for vertical members including center braces. I assume Hard maple is much stronger so should be no issues there.
2. Instead of using screws I would like to use 10mmx50mm domino's and tightbond 3.
3 I would like to not "skin" the frame on 3 sides with plywood rather use inset doors on front and sides, Plywood on back.
4. I would also be using a top on this stand made from curly maple oversized about 3" on front and sides. Every table I have built uses fasteners that allows for expansion and contraction. Is that still a good Idea seeing that a ton will be sitting on top of it?

Stand will be painted with flat black 2k Poly and top will be clear 2k poly (centurion). I think It should be pretty sharp with the blond figured wood top on black cabinet. doing open top this time so no canopy. For reference, this Is the tank that I'm replacing. Built that stand about 15 years ago.

Glue and dominos will be more than enough. I often use one or two Kreg screws with a domino glue joint just so I don’t need to clamp it but a glued domino joint is extremely strong.

 

[ShakeyGizzard]

Glue and dominos will be more than enough. I often use one or two Kreg screws with a domino glue joint just so I don’t need to clamp it but a glued domino joint is extremely strong.

Kreg screws are quite weak, I would prefer deck screws and tight bond 3, the screws are also coated to prevent corrosion

Glue and dominos will be more than enough. I often use one or two Kreg screws with a domino glue joint just so I don’t need to clamp it but a glued domino joint is extremely strong.

based on a tank this size, I would sleep better with deck screws and tight bond 3

 

[theclownshow]

Glue and dominos will be more than enough. I often use one or two Kreg screws with a domino glue joint just so I don’t need to clamp it but a glued domino joint is extremely strong.

Kreg screws are quite weak, I would prefer deck screws and tight bond 3, the screws are also coated to prevent corrosion

Glue and dominos will be more than enough. I often use one or two Kreg screws with a domino glue joint just so I don’t need to clamp it but a glued domino joint is extremely strong.

based on a tank this size, I would sleep better with deck screws and tight bond 3

The Kreg screws sole purpose in this case is to pull the join tight. After the glue dries the screw is irrelevant. It just eliminates the need to put it in clamps. Screwing a joint that is glued and dominoed doesn’t make it any stronger. The wood will break before the glue join fails

 

[ShakeyGizzard]

The Kreg screws sole purpose in this case is to pull the join tight. After the glue dries the screw is irrelevant. It just eliminates the need to put it in clamps. Screwing a joint that is glued and dominoed doesn’t make it any stronger. The wood will break before the glue join fails

that cool, but a decent mortise and tenon joint is better than that with no screws, I build with wood. Its best to over kill since it can occupy the same space. My 40 breeder stand can hold up the corner of my house. it will last longer than the tank. Kreg screws have a place, not here

 

[theclownshow]

The Kreg screws sole purpose in this case is to pull the join tight. After the glue dries the screw is irrelevant. It just eliminates the need to put it in clamps. Screwing a joint that is glued and dominoed doesn’t make it any stronger. The wood will break before the glue join fails

that cool, but a decent mortise and tenon joint is better than that with no screws, I build with wood. Its best to over kill since it can occupy the same space. My 40 breeder stand can hold up the corner of my house. it will last longer than the tank. Kreg screws have a place, not here

It’s no different than using a clamp in this situation. Dominos and glue is just as good a mortise and tenon joint

 

[Ann Enomy]

I have seen many tests that loose tenons (domino) are just as strong as mortise and tenon joints and far superior to screws. That’s why I was going with them. I use them in the dining chairs that I built and have not had any issues and chairs take a ton of abuse. The finish on the old tank was general finishes vintage cherry dye stain with general finishes semigloss polyurethane. That was before 2k polyurethane was around. That’s my new go to bulletproof finish