Anyone using Dr. Sochting's Oxydator

[danieyella]

I mean, what is the little black tablet thing made of? Piece of activated carbon?

everything i can find says "specialized ceramic"

 

[atoll]

I mean, what is the little black tablet thing made of? Piece of activated carbon?

A special ceramic material impregnated with some silver.

 

[cbnspanky]

Please post results. My Nano with an oxydator barely even had an ugly phase and is doing incredibly well. Having said that, I’ve had it in there from the beginning, so don’t have a “before and after” comparison.

I would love to see more users posting about their direct experiences...

I’ve only had my 12 gallon nano running for a week with a clownfish. Put the oxydator in from day one and hoping I can mostly skip the ugly phase.

 

[MnFish1]

I’ve only had my 12 gallon nano running for a week with a clownfish. Put the oxydator in from day one and hoping I can mostly skip the ugly phase.

What results would you like?

 

[MnFish1]

@atoll

 

[atoll]

I’ve only had my 12 gallon nano running for a week with a clownfish. Put the oxydator in from day one and hoping I can mostly skip the ugly phase.

An Oxydator won't have an effect on nutrients like nitrate phosphates if course. However, it will increase redox which will help reduce or eliminate cyno and diatoms. Some suggest it will also prevent GHA taking a hold but I can't verify that claim. Water should be noticeably clear but if using one from initial setup then you won't have a comparison with a before and after.

 

[Makara23]

I just purchased Oxydator D size for my 60gallon system.

Can I use undiluted 35% H2O2 and compensate with a smaller catalyst instead of diluting the H2O2? The idea is so I wouldn't have to refill as often. If not, what's the recommended diluted H2O2 strength? So far only 4 small fish that gets very small feedings.

Also, for water clarity and removing contaminants, is it redundant to also run activated carbon?

 

[Lasse]

The idea is so I wouldn't have to refill as often. If not, what's the recommended diluted H2O2 strength?

Look here

Higher concentration - faster dosing. You have to test - I would start with 3 %

Sincerely Lasse

 

[atoll]

I just purchased Oxydator D size for my 60gallon system.

Can I use undiluted 35% H2O2 and compensate with a smaller catalyst instead of diluting the H2O2? The idea is so I wouldn't have to refill as often. If not, what's the recommended diluted H2O2 strength? So far only 4 small fish that gets very small feedings.

Also, for water clarity and removing contaminants, is it redundant to also run activated carbon?

Why don't you want to dilute the peroxide as it makes more sense to do so? If you don't have RO water you can buy bottled distilled water cheap enough

 

[Makara23]

Why don't you want to dilute the peroxide as it makes more sense to do so? If you don't have RO water you can buy bottled distilled water cheap enough

I have a 7-stage RO/DI system, so it's not that. I just want one less piece of "equipment" to check weekly. I'm planning to put it in the back of my tiny sump and with all the other stuff in the way, it's harder to pull out and manually check for H2O2 levels.

If I were to use a 35% H2O2 but chop the included catalyst in half (or 1/4) to slow down the reaction, would this be equivalent of a dilution?

1 full catalyst = 35%
1/2 catalyst = 17.5%
1/4 catalyst = 8.75%

Undiluted H2O2 filling but 1/4 size catalyst would mean I'd get the same oxygenation, but at longer refilling interval compared to a diluted H2O2 using the full included catalyst. Please let me know if this logic is not correct.

 

[atoll]

I have a 7-stage RO/DI system, so it's not that. I just want one less piece of "equipment" to check weekly. I'm planning to put it in the back of my tiny sump and with all the other stuff in the way, it's harder to pull out and manually check for H2O2 levels.

If I were to use a 35% H2O2 but chop the included catalyst in half (or 1/4) to slow down the reaction, would this be equivalent of a dilution?

1 full catalyst = 35%
1/2 catalyst = 17.5%
1/4 catalyst = 8.75%

Undiluted H2O2 filling but 1/4 size catalyst would mean I'd get the same oxygenation, but at longer refilling interval compared to a diluted H2O2 using the full included catalyst. Please let me know if this logic is not correct.

I have never nor do I know of anybody cutting down a catalyst as you propose. I guess you could use a Dremil to do it but being ceramic it might be difficult do.
I guess the only thing to do would be to try it in a bucket of water at the same temperature as your tank and record the peroxide usage. 35% is very strong and I wouldn't feel comfortable without doing some tests first. If you try it let us know how you get on.
BTW I think the oxydator mini uses smaller catalysts.

 

[Makara23]

I have never nor do I know of anybody cutting down a catalyst as you propose. I guess you could use a Dremil to do it but being ceramic it might be difficult do.
I guess the only thing to do would be to try it in a bucket of water at the same temperature as your tank and record the peroxide usage. 35% is very strong and I wouldn't feel comfortable without doing some tests first. If you try it let us know how you get on.
BTW I think the oxydator mini uses smaller catalysts.

I've worked extensively with a dremel before, but only on steel and wood, I've never done ceramic. If I can't cut the catalyst, then I wouldn't mind just shaving it down.

This was only a question but if it's uncharted territory, I'm a little hesitant to try it in my system if no one else has done it before. I'll do it in a bucket as you've suggested. I'll compare a 35% H2O2 using 1/4 catalyst vs 6% H2O2 full catalyst and will report back.

Is there anywhere I can purchase just the extra catalyst in the US? I bought the Oxydator D on ebay.

 

[atoll]

I've worked extensively with a dremel before, but only on steel and wood, I've never done ceramic. If I can't cut the catalyst, then I wouldn't mind just shaving it down.

This was only a question but if it's uncharted territory, I'm a little hesitant to try it in my system if no one else has done it before. I'll do it in a bucket as you've suggested. I'll compare a 35% H2O2 using 1/4 catalyst vs 6% H2O2 full catalyst and will report back.

Is there anywhere I can purchase just the extra catalyst in the US? I bought the Oxydator D on ebay.

As far as I am aware there is no stock of Oxydator's in the US. However the shrimp tank in Canada seems the place to go.

 

[That Crusso Kid]

I've worked extensively with a dremel before, but only on steel and wood, I've never done ceramic. If I can't cut the catalyst, then I wouldn't mind just shaving it down.

This was only a question but if it's uncharted territory, I'm a little hesitant to try it in my system if no one else has done it before. I'll do it in a bucket as you've suggested. I'll compare a 35% H2O2 using 1/4 catalyst vs 6% H2O2 full catalyst and will report back.

Is there anywhere I can purchase just the extra catalyst in the US? I bought the Oxydator D on ebay.

Looks like their located in Albuquerque, NM.


https://www.theshrimptank.com/hardware/sochting-oxydator-catalyst-replacement/

 

[Lasse]

I have a 7-stage RO/DI system, so it's not that. I just want one less piece of "equipment" to check weekly. I'm planning to put it in the back of my tiny sump and with all the other stuff in the way, it's harder to pull out and manually check for H2O2 levels.

If I were to use a 35% H2O2 but chop the included catalyst in half (or 1/4) to slow down the reaction, would this be equivalent of a dilution?

1 full catalyst = 35%
1/2 catalyst = 17.5%
1/4 catalyst = 8.75%

Undiluted H2O2 filling but 1/4 size catalyst would mean I'd get the same oxygenation, but at longer refilling interval compared to a diluted H2O2 using the full included catalyst. Please let me know if this logic is not correct.

I've worked extensively with a dremel before, but only on steel and wood, I've never done ceramic. If I can't cut the catalyst, then I wouldn't mind just shaving it down.

This was only a question but if it's uncharted territory, I'm a little hesitant to try it in my system if no one else has done it before. I'll do it in a bucket as you've suggested. I'll compare a 35% H2O2 using 1/4 catalyst vs 6% H2O2 full catalyst and will report back.

Is there anywhere I can purchase just the extra catalyst in the US? I bought the Oxydator D on ebay.

Your reasoning assumes that the reaction rate is linear depending on the concentration ion and/or the surface area of the catalyst but - I'm not so sure about that. I suspect it instead follows some kind of exponential curve. 35% H2O2 will result in fairly strong catalysis and the number of gas molecules formed in the bottle per unit time will stir the solution a lot - resulting in a faster supply of uncatalyzed H2O2 to the catalyst.

What´s so ever - you must do some experiments to see which result you get.

Sincerely Lasse

 

[beardog]

Hi, I have the largest size Söchting Oxydator which I ran on my 260g reef. I have shut that tank down and now am running a 57g with total Water volume of approx 70g. My question is can I run the large oxydator on this smaller tank without any detrimental effects? Thanks.

 

[atoll]

Hi, I have the largest size Söchting Oxydator which I ran on my 260g reef. I have shut that tank down and now am running a 57g with total Water volume of approx 70g. My question is can I run the large oxydator on this smaller tank without any detrimental effects? Thanks.

Yes you can. Your just holding more peroxide than a smaller model.like the model A. You could use 9% peroxide with 2 catalysts with a well stocked 70 gallon.
BTW. I assume you have the model W in which case it isn't the largest Oxydator you can buy the W Maxi is.

 

[beardog]

You are correct it is the W and not the W maxi. Thank you for your quick response.

 

[josephfi]

I just purchased Oxydator D size for my 60gallon system.

Can I use undiluted 35% H2O2 and compensate with a smaller catalyst instead of diluting the H2O2? The idea is so I wouldn't have to refill as often. If not, what's the recommended diluted H2O2 strength? So far only 4 small fish that gets very small feedings.

Also, for water clarity and removing contaminants, is it redundant to also run activated carbon?

I always use the original h2o2 from oxydator. 6% with 2 catalysts and refill the oxydator bottle once a week.

 

[WallyTime7]

Where can I order the 'W' model state-side?