ATI Straton LED Light - Comments, Review, PAR, Coverage, Discuss...

[Hurricane Aquatics]

Not to get into a long discussion, but it has to do with light spectrum mixing. T5s and Halide ignite and mix immediately and then are reflected into the tank.

LED is each individual led separated and cannot mix. Companies use diffusers to try to mix and spread the light to help this. It does help, but not enough in my opinion.

Radions, up until the Gen 4, used pucks that had some leds in them and were under reflectors. These worked fairly well. Now, all leds are packed along with each other and it loses the blending.

Illumagic Blaze fixture is one of the best I've seen at laying out LEDs like I believe they should be.

 

[beesnreefs]

Not to get into a long discussion, but it has to do with light spectrum mixing. T5s and Halide ignite and mix immediately and then are reflected into the tank.

LED is each individual led separated and cannot mix. Companies use diffusers to try to mix and spread the light to help this. It does help, but not enough in my opinion.

Radions, up until the Gen 4, used pucks that had some leds in them and were under reflectors. These worked fairly well. Now, all leds are packed along with each other and it loses the blending.

Illumagic Blaze fixture is one of the best I've seen at laying out LEDs like I believe they should be.

Ahhh, ok…so if I’m understand you’re saying reflectors help LEDs mix better than a diffuser. So the Straton Pro might have the same LEDs and roughly same spectrum, but the light mix is likely to be better because it uses deflectors

 

[Hurricane Aquatics]

Ahhh, ok…so if I’m understand you’re saying reflectors help LEDs mix better than a diffuser. So the Straton Pro might have the same LEDs and roughly same spectrum, but the light mix is likely to be better because it uses deflectors

Well said, yes, and will most likely penetrate deeper.

 

[oreo54]

Can you help me understand why reflectors are better for LEDs?

First they aren't always better.
A long time ago I had inquired with one of the LED lens manuf. Believe it was Ledil but I can't be 100% positive. (old memory)
Their recommendation on type of optic depended on the beam angle.
The bottom line was reflectors performed better in the 90degree-ish range.

For aquariums (start of my own reasons) good TIR optics are err too good.
You often need the "randomization" for better blending especially with single diode/single lens arrays.
Second the glare is reduced for people sitting in general.

 

[Hurricane Aquatics]

First they aren't always better.
A long time ago I had equired with one of the LED lens manuf. Believe it was Ledil but I can't be 100% positive. (old memory)
Their recommendation on type of optic depended on the beam angle.
The bottom line was reflectors performed better in the 90degree-ish range.

For aquariums (start of my own reasons) good TIR optics are err too good.
You often need the "randomization" for better blending especially with single diode/single lens arrays.
Second the glare is reduced for people sitting in general.

You always have the graphs and info handy! . Great info as always.

 

[oreo54]

My google-fu has failed and I can't find the diode count and nm for the Straton Pro.
Orig Didn't have white k temp and red from the graph above:

 

[Superlightman]

They even not have real UV an moonlight inside for the price?!!That is deceptive.
The reflectors are good for reduce the glare, yes that is true.For better blending and color mixing I'm not sure in the straton as each led has his reflector that is not same halides at all. A big reflector for many leds would be probably better. I really doubt about the color mixing of the new straton as they themself say to hang the led higher for better mixing of colors,that is a concern for me and when I ask about this they were very evasif..

 

[Hurricane Aquatics]

They even not have real UV an moonlight inside for the price?!!That is deceptive.
The reflectors are good for reduce the glare, yes that is true.For better blending and color mixing I'm not sure in the straton as each led has his reflector that is not same halides at all. A big reflector for many leds would be probably better. I really doubt about the color mixing of the new straton as they themself say to hang the led higher for better mixing of colors,that is a concern for me and when I ask about this they were very evasif..

Which LED do you know of that has true UV+

 

[Mattiejay6]

Which LED do you know of that has true UV+

Orphek and reefi uno

 

[Hurricane Aquatics]

Orphek and reefi uno

Those aren't UV spectrum. That's Violet. 365nm is true UV. There is 1 fixture that uses true UV. This one:

http://www.focustronic.net/products/core-products/solartronic.html

 

[Superlightman]

Red sea reef led, kessil, the new radion, maxspect also have uv, uv is under 385.
But I see the test posted here was not the pro but the old one

 

[zachtos]

Which LED do you know of that has true UV+

I easily supplemented with reefbreeders UV strips, they have every wavelength and look amazing.

 

[Colt13]

have the original stratons been discontinued? see the listing on BRS

 

[uhupong]

Wow ...that's not good

 

[Maximus]

Isn’t there a pro model coming out soon?

 

[Colt13]

Isn’t there a pro model coming out soon?

its been out in germany, but i was under the impression it wouldnt hit the USA until a year or so from now

 

[ATI North America]

ATI Germany is no longer making the regular Straton however it is still available at various retailers.
ATI Germany is currently only making the Straton Pro for the European market since they cannot make enough to supply us here in North America.

 

[beesnreefs]

ATI Germany is no longer making the regular Straton however it is still available at various retailers.
ATI Germany is currently only making the Straton Pro for the European market since they cannot make enough to supply us here in North America.

So glad I got my original Stratons when I did.

Here’s to hoping the Pro version makes its way stateside before I need new lights!

 

[MartinM]

Thanks for the tip, I’m going to stock up, especially since IME the “pro” is a downgrade from the original.

Wonder if it has anything to do with the energy prices and what that’s done to aluminum, etc over there…

 

[Maximus]

Thanks for the tip, I’m going to stock up, especially since IME the “pro” is a downgrade from the original.

Wonder if it has anything to do with the energy prices and what that’s done to aluminum, etc over there…

Why is the pro version a downgrade?