What connection does the DOS use (just aquabus?)-- basically will it work with this new EL without the VDM module or is that really only for controlling pumps and lights?
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What connection does the DOS use (just aquabus?)-- basically will it work with this new EL without the VDM module or is that really only for controlling pumps and lights?
What connection does the DOS use (just aquabus?)-- basically will it work with this new EL without the VDM module or is that really only for controlling pumps and lights?
DOS operates on aquabus or optional 1link module with 1link cables. Using the 1link module and cables the DOS doesn’t need its own dedicated power supply ( correct me if I’m wrong).
The DOS just needs Aquabus for the control.
Since you're in Northampton, I'd suggest checking out Something Fishy. Veronica can walk you through the gear, and I believe they have a full system set up where you can see how it all goes together. She's always been more interested in finding out what I need than just trying to sell me something.
I can’t see where the classic would have any place in the lineup at this point, but the Jr is at a completely different price point and with its more limited capabilities is really aimed at a different target group. What feature set would they put on the new Jr that would improve on the current model without raising the price and/or eating into the market for the Apex LE?This is the ApexLite all over again (I still have my Lite and its a perfectly good controller for 90% of tanks out there, better than the JR IMHO). I think the Classic and Jr(unless they release a new JR) will slowly be discontinued in the next 1/4.
Wow! This seems to be a great value and a big reason to upgrade from the classic units.
My kessil alone requires two 0-10V ports, one for intensity and one for color balance.This is a great option for a lot of people. Honestly, salinity and ORP are completely unnecessary for a lot of people. It’s too bad they don’t have at least one 0-10V port, though, as a lot of people will miss that. You can add it with a VDM module, but that adds $100 to the price.
I don’t think it’s misleading to say that salinity and ORP are optional - you can add them with the PM1 module, so it’s fully capable (as opposed to the Jr which has limited expansion abilities,) just not without purchasing the module. If you really do want to monitor these, you’re probably better off getting the full Apex, though, since by the time you get the module and the probes you’re within spitting distance of the standard Apex
Re: EOL for the classic, I would expext them to do that. The Jr is still a nice entry price point if you only need limited abilities.
Between my Kessils and wavemakers I use all four 0-10V ports on my classic. The kessil alone requires two: one for intensity and one for color balance.
I applaud Neptune for expanding their product line...
But this isn't what I was hoping for.
I'd really like to see a next gen Jr. Temp, pH, some method of digital input, 4 port power strip, and wireless, for <$200. Something to fit in the RKL market.
If they'd put the EL base unit for sale by it's lonesome for a decent price... The 2016 Apex base is half price from the full kit... Figure $250 for the stripped EL controller module? I might buy one to replace my Classic. It'll run the Neptune, when it comes out... and the Classic won't. Built in wireless... yeah, I might go $250.
Instead of ending life for the classic, they could reduce it's price...
Drop the Jr to $149, drop the Classic to $349. They could even drop the display module from both kits, if they need to drop something to get it to that price range. Might be surprised how many units they could sell at those price points.
Yes even the pH is kind of optional, something nice for low maintenance tanks / qt tanks, I just want some output programming and access from web.I applaud Neptune for expanding their product line...
But this isn't what I was hoping for.
I'd really like to see a next gen Jr. Temp, pH, some method of digital input, 4 port power strip, and wireless, for <$200. Something to fit in the RKL market.
If they'd put the EL base unit for sale by it's lonesome for a decent price... The 2016 Apex base is half price from the full kit... Figure $250 for the stripped EL controller module? I might buy one to replace my Classic. It'll run the Neptune, when it comes out... and the Classic won't. Built in wireless... yeah, I might go $250.
Instead of ending life for the classic, they could reduce it's price...
Drop the Jr to $149, drop the Classic to $349. They could even drop the display module from both kits, if they need to drop something to get it to that price range. Might be surprised how many units they could sell at those price points.
I'm pretty sure the plan is to trim, not to expand.I applaud Neptune for expanding their product line...
The Neptune classic is approaching 10 years old. Imagine still trying to get support for a 10 year old cell phone or computer. As a computer based product gets to that age, it becomes hard to source the parts and perhaps more trouble than it's worth, especially at an ultra low price point.Instead of ending life for the classic, they could reduce it's price...
Drop the Jr to $149, drop the Classic to $349. They could even drop the display module from both kits, if they need to drop something to get it to that price range. Might be surprised how many units they could sell at those price points.
Yep classic is great and still works good, I don't expect them to support it any more though, and frankly I don't think they need to.I'm pretty sure the plan is to trim, not to expand.
The Neptune classic is approaching 10 years old. Imagine still trying to get support for a 10 year old cell phone or computer. As a computer based product gets to that age, it becomes hard to source the parts and perhaps more trouble than it's worth, especially at an ultra low price point.
Thanks for the feedback. Always welcome. And we do listen. That is why we actually made the EL system available - after hearing from many customers that they wanted a lower cost system - but didn't want to sacrifice things like the EB832.<SNIP>