Anybody have any? I’ve never seen Staghorn or Elkhorn is it because of CITES or whatever?
If there are any who has them and what is available?
If there are any who has them and what is available?
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It's a big no go. And unfortunately rock culturing areas don't seem to overlap with Caribbean staghorn/eklhorn areas. Which is to stay the only ones I know of are in the gulf and the Northern Keys.
You have to have licensure to collect any kind of tropical anywhere.Do you or anyone else know what is the northern limit of acropora in the Atlantic/Gulf/Caribbean?
Are you saying rock culturing is limited to certain areas and those areas are mostly outside reef building corals natural range?
I remember back in the 60’s many vacationers brought back souvenirs from the Caribbean islands esp Jamaica.
Correct me if I’m wrong but lettuce coral and elkhorn used to adorn many coffee tables back then.
I’ve seen videos of organizations growing them for repopulating. No chance those corals are available ?
Also saw a MACNA speaker or someone finding corals in Miami canals. Wonder if collecting in city limits is ok?
Exactly. I think it’s absolutely disgusting and I can’t see myself ever supporting Disney.wow you can’t collect them but if you want to dredge or drill its OK?
I see the end coming to the loose environmental regulations
Exactly!!! And I don’t understand it! We can hunt lion fish that are invasive but not this coral?I believe all Caribbean hard corals are illegal to collect or sell, certainly thats the case for the ESA listed ones.
Its pretty silly really. Long after Caribbean reefs finish collapsing, hobbyists will still be propagating coral genotypes that have been in the hobby for many decades. If the extremists hadnt pushed for zero tolerance bans, the surviving corals could include some Caribbean ones.
We can bulldoze acres of living reefs for coastal development but if you take a coral from the ocean and put it in an aquarium, thats illegal. Good stuff!
(want to really see how dumb it is? Collection and sales of the sun coral Tubastrea coccinea from the Caribbean is illegal. This is an invasive species. Managers throughout the Caribbean and Gulf are charged with collecting and destroying it. But collect some and sell it? Illegal)
Do you or anyone else know what is the northern limit of acropora in the Atlantic/Gulf/Caribbean?
Are you saying rock culturing is limited to certain areas and those areas are mostly outside reef building corals natural range?
I remember back in the 60’s many vacationers brought back souvenirs from the Caribbean islands esp Jamaica.
Correct me if I’m wrong but lettuce coral and elkhorn used to adorn many coffee tables back then.
I’ve seen videos of organizations growing them for repopulating. No chance those corals are available ?
Also saw a MACNA speaker or someone finding corals in Miami canals. Wonder if collecting in city limits is ok?
From what I have been told it is all over oil rigs in the gulf. I have never been able to keep it alive for some reason and sometimes it wont even open at allI believe all Caribbean hard corals are illegal to collect or sell, certainly thats the case for the ESA listed ones.
Its pretty silly really. Long after Caribbean reefs finish collapsing, hobbyists will still be propagating coral genotypes that have been in the hobby for many decades. If the extremists hadnt pushed for zero tolerance bans, the surviving corals could include some Caribbean ones.
We can bulldoze acres of living reefs for coastal development but if you take a coral from the ocean and put it in an aquarium, thats illegal. Good stuff!
(want to really see how dumb it is? Collection and sales of the sun coral Tubastrea coccinea from the Caribbean is illegal. This is an invasive species. Managers throughout the Caribbean and Gulf are charged with collecting and destroying it. But collect some and sell it? Illegal)
I have got porities on florida aquacultured rock before but it has always died off in the cycle? And with the tech and lighting today those unappealing acros may take on complete different colors than in the wild?There are plenty of gorgonia, zoas and some Corallimorpharia.
The only stonies or SPS corals would come in on aquacultured rock. None are legal to collect.
The other thing is there really are only a few acropora and the main two are the acropora palmata and Acropora cervicornis. Acropora palmata would be difficult and would require a large tank. I do not think many would be interested in the acros.
There has been porities that has made it into the hobby. Probably on some rock at one point. I have seen none of it in a long time though.