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HELP!!
Added a clown goby yesterday and this morning I realized it is hovering near the top and perching near the glass on the top as well???
Please give advice or thoughts I am nervous

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Can barely see the fish in the picture. Maybe use a flashlight. Please also read through this post and give as much of the information asked for as possible.

 

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Could be a number of things wrong- or nothing at all! Hard to advise with no information given.. :confused-face: @Jekyl has rightly pointed you in the right direction :)

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Can barely see the fish in the picture. Maybe use a flashlight. Please also read through this post and give as much of the information asked for as possible.

So basically I see now physical signs of ick or what so. I have a yellow WATchamn goby and 2 green chromis who look fine and healthy. This guy looks healthy as well but is definitely acting strange.
My tank conditions are as follows:
7.9 PH approximately

ammonia nitrite are at 0ppm

nitrate is approximately 30-40ppm.


tank has cycled and I did a water change 5 days ago, added the fish in last night.

current tank temperature 77.9 degrees
Current salinity 1.023 ish.
As of right now this is a fish only tank with many live rock.
 

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So basically I see now physical signs of ick or what so. I have a yellow WATchamn goby and 2 green chromis who look fine and healthy. This guy looks healthy as well but is definitely acting strange.
My tank conditions are as follows:
7.9 PH approximately

ammonia nitrite are at 0ppm

nitrate is approximately 30-40ppm.


tank has cycled and I did a water change 5 days ago, added the fish in last night.

current tank temperature 77.9 degrees
Current salinity 1.023 ish.
As of right now this is a fish only tank with many live rock.
Still need better pics and a short video if possible please.
 

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Agreed with Jekyl, but - just to add some food for thought - clown gobies typically like to live in SPS branches. You mentioned that your tank is currently a FOWLR tank, so it may just be perching there because that is where it feels the safest/most at home (i.e. it might be using the equipment it's perched by in your tank as a substitute SPS coral).
 
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Looking at your fish - there are a couple possibilities.

1. It's hovering at the top because it's being bullied/chased there by another fish - I assume you would have mentioned this. It could just be because its a 'new fish'
2. was it quarantined - or treated with anything? If not - it could be any number of diseases (see #3)
3. If you indeed see 'spots' (I'm not sure I do) - it would require treatment for likely cryptocaryon. I don't see anything looking like lymphocystis. The treatment in a tank with no invertebrates would be Ruby Reef Rally Pro. - Which would also treat the rest of your fish.

It does seem odd for a fish to develop cryptocaryon within 12-24 hours - but I have seen it. The other fish look ok - is the goby eating - to me he looks thin.

In any case, based on your history - I would suggest either moving to a hospital tank and treating all of your fish = leaving your display fallow. If you want to do it in the display tank - I would go with the Ruby Rally Pro.
 

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A quick way to check stress/issues with a fish is to feed it. If it eats well, things are not serious (yet anyway). If it doesn’t eat, that points to a serious issue. Can you try feeding it and let us know?
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A quick way to check stress/issues with a fish is to feed it. If it eats well, things are not serious (yet anyway). If it doesn’t eat, that points to a serious issue. Can you try feeding it and let us know?
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I am about to add a half cube mysis shrimp will update y’all
 
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I am about to add a half cube mysis shrimp will update y’all
A quick way to check stress/issues with a fish is to feed it. If it eats well, things are not serious (yet anyway). If it doesn’t eat, that points to a serious issue. Can you try feeding it and let us know?
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With my luck the little guy has went into hiding in a little cave and is just chilling against a rock! I added mysis shrimp in but he had no reaction, the other fish I added I saw eat a little bit maybe he is shy?
 

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Based on the info you provided so far, my first two thoughts would be...

a) It is seeking shelter from another fish that may be bullying it ... possibly the Watchman goby?

b) it is seeking oxygen

If you have other fish in the tank and they are not spending a significant amount of time at the top, then the oxygen in your tank is probably fine. (There could still be the possibility that the clown goby has gill flukes ... which would cause it alone to seek more oxygen.)

I honestly do not know if a watchmen goby would see a clown goby as direct competition and bully it. Keep an eye open for chasing ... or nip marks on the clown goby's body and fins. (I can tell you that I had a 4' long 65g and it was still not enough room for two clown gobies to get along when they matured. One still constantly sought out and beat up on the other...)
 
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Based on the info you provided so far, my first two thoughts would be...

a) It is seeking shelter from another fish that may be bullying it ... possibly the Watchman goby?

b) it is seeking oxygen

If you have other fish in the tank and they are not spending a significant amount of time at the top, then the oxygen in your tank is probably fine. (There could still be the possibility that the clown goby has gill flukes ... which would cause it alone to seek more oxygen.)

I honestly do not know if a watchmen goby would see a clown goby as direct competition and bully it. Keep an eye open for chasing ... or nip marks on the clown goby's body and fins. (I can tell you that I had a 4' long 65g and it was still not enough room for two clown gobies to get along when they matured. One still constantly sought out and beat up on the other...)
All other fish are fine and swimming at the bottom of tank none gasping for oxygen!
 

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There are many reasons that a fish won't eat, but all of them are serious. I guess my fall back for this species is that it may be suffering from cyanide poisoning. What happens is these clown gobies live in tight crevices, and they are relatively low value (a nice one like this might get the fisher 25 cents). Because of that, the collectors can't take the time to net them. What they do is spread sodium cyanide over the coral and catch the stunned fish as they emerge. This makes it profitable, but some of these fish die right away, and others die over the next 40 days or so. One key symptom is lack of feeding. Others can include varied things like excessive shyness or the fish being really bold. There isn't any treatment - some fish do recover, but the mortality rate is around 40 to 60% over the first 2 months depending on the species.

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There are many reasons that a fish won't eat, but all of them are serious. I guess my fall back for this species is that it may be suffering from cyanide poisoning. What happens is these clown gobies live in tight crevices, and they are relatively low value (a nice one like this might get the fisher 25 cents). Because of that, the collectors can't take the time to net them. What they do is spread sodium cyanide over the coral and catch the stunned fish as they emerge. This makes it profitable, but some of these fish die right away, and others die over the next 40 days or so. One key symptom is lack of feeding. Others can include varied things like excessive shyness or the fish being really bold. There isn't any treatment - some fish do recover, but the mortality rate is around 40 to 60% over the first 2 months depending on the species.

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Sheesh that is very intense and cruel can’t imagine that just to get these lilttle
Poor guys. Maybe that’s why I don’t see them around in stores as much. This is really good to know thank you
For taking the time to explain!
 

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So basically I see now physical signs of ick or what so. I have a yellow WATchamn goby and 2 green chromis who look fine and healthy. This guy looks healthy as well but is definitely acting strange.
My tank conditions are as follows:
7.9 PH approximately

ammonia nitrite are at 0ppm

nitrate is approximately 30-40ppm.


tank has cycled and I did a water change 5 days ago, added the fish in last night.

current tank temperature 77.9 degrees
Current salinity 1.023 ish.
As of right now this is a fish only tank with many live rock.
Very typical location for them when introduced and should come down for food when its feeding time. It will eventually perch on rocks and within coral
 
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Very typical location for them when introduced and should come down for food when its feeding time. It will eventually perch on rocks and within coral
Would it be to much stress to rearrange one small rock structure in a different position? Considering I added the fish yesterday
 

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