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Just because it is 16 years old does not mean it is not relevant. I like it because I can go into literature and find much of the references that article still cites.You quote a 16 year old document.
The document talks about deaths only.
Higher nitrites indicates to ME, the cycle is NOT complete and while it may not kill, it’s certainly not going to be comfortable and that will increase stress.
Our advice remains, zero out ammonia, zero out nitrite, do a 50% water change, manage nitrates going forward.
You... do understand that in this case I am saying not to worry about the nitrite level measured, right?Azenkendae never uses cycling articles to relay cycling rules. hype and consequence in all settings, all the time, using articles not about cycling and never mentions mis testing or common api misreads we collect by the hundreds.
nobody in cycling inputs enough initial ammonia to convert to nitrite in the degrees he lists.
am going to go re read the first post here to determine from key words if this cycle is done, and I can’t find a single example of a stalled or incomplete cycle on the entire internet so this ones already looking well based on %
nobody has ever, ever met nitrite toxicity in a cycling reef tank or there’d be a link, and Aze would espouse it endlessly. Brb
I am giving people consideration and the full picture so they can decide for themselves what they want to do. I guess you never really read my posts in full, if you think I am scaremongering and just want people to cycle a particular way. In fact, I wonder if you actually read any of the articles I linked? Because they would agree with you that there is really no need to worry about nitrite. Which I also communicate through, and simply tack on a warning that based on experiments, it has been suggested to keep nitrite below a certain level - which is still very high compared to what we normally measure. And thus I make a suggestion of what can be done to be 100% sure we never reach that point, but don't ever force anyone down that path.so obviously the fish disease thing has been a source of contention lately lol/interjected here without being asked.
its legit, read up Dean in the fish disease forum and see if you think Im relaying impossibles
regarding the nitrite my beef with Aze isn't because as an adult i like have online nemeses
its because to relay that info on every post about cycling/see his post history regarding nitrite/ causes misdirection in new cyclers and they already have it rough enough. Aze isn't using cycle works he's completed himself for example
those articles he re links in 100% of cycling posts have 0% to do with cycling, but they're relayed as an inclusion to consider.
He's misleading new reefkeepers. If he even passively mentioned the disease angle, and known loss we see when we hang around after a cycle call or bother to message a cycler three months after a job we complete, he could keep mentioning neutral nitrite and it wouldn't be a bother.
But to sub one for the other: following Aze's cycle offers will result in thousands more dead fish. He's not reporting personal experience in any single post we can read from the history. He is re posting other's chemistry links to hype up a risk he's never documented one time in cycling online.
Azenkendae does not have a single example of the consequences for not following his cycle rules. That's because everyones cycle on this board completed, bottle bac is this good. They werent selling us distilled water it turns out.
Did you add any nitrifying bacteria? Without an artificial boost, cycling a new tank can take 1-2 months. Your fish may only be alive due to you dosing Prime.Yes day one with sand and dry rock , I’m just glad my tanks cycling okay
Seems like it went to all the diatoms and gha and stuff.I'm confused. Where did all the nitrate go?
Have you stopped dosing Prime for several days now, keeping the fish in the tank, and the fish have survived?