Fish sick and dying

[Mflores888]

About a week ago I was delivered a group of anthias (1 large male and 3 females). I wasn't home when they were delivered and my family put them into the tank. Fast forward I didn't realize that the large male was infected and at first I thought it was velvet but it didn't show the usual symptoms of hiding or swimming against the power heads. If it was ich it wouldn't be all the the fish like that. And it didn't have a slime coat like brook usually shows. The large male died 5 days later, the females the day after that, and now all my other fish are getting sick. My midas blenny is basically dead with a chewed up tail and what appears to be blindness in its right eye. My fox face is getting weird dots on its skin which in the 3 years I've had him he's never shown. I can go on but here are the symptoms most fish are showing.

White dots (ranging from few to a ton as shown in my clownfish)

Twitching head

Swimming very fast and then hiding

Heavy breathing

In the large male anthia it lost scales and it's tail was almost peeling off

Scratching

The blue tang, midnight clown and the fox face are the one's who show the most white on them. All the other fish are not showing as much. My mandarin also has some weird white slime on it but i was thinking maybe it's the protective mucus that is around him? The fish are still eating and 2 weeks later they are still holding on. I have looked around and compared as much as I could but I can't find something that looks like what they have at the moment.

 

[gentlefish]

So sorry to hear. Sounds like a tank wipe out event … with blindness you want to rule out flukes by freshwater dip and if not present put the fish in a hospital tank with copper. One of the pictures suggests velvet. Best of luck.

 

[Max93]

TTM… and a quarantine for 72 days.
Question what vendor did you get these from? You can DM me if you prefer. I just bought four anthias but it’s a quarantine guaranteed vendor..

 

[Wen]

I’d get a Qt tank set up ASAP while you search for answers.

 

[BoneDoc]

sorry to hear about your loss. That really sucks. I would probably try to treat for velvet while we wait a more definitive answers. From all the sources I read, velvet is the one who kills this fast

 

[Mflores888]

TTM… and a quarantine for 72 days.
Question what vendor did you get these from? You can DM me if you prefer. I just bought four anthias but it’s a quarantine guaranteed vendor..

I got them from a local guy in SoCal. I've done business with him before but this was the first time the fish was delivered earlier than expected and the fish was unhealthy

 

[SaltwaterGuruNeeded]

I got them from a local guy in SoCal. I've done business with him before but this was the first time the fish was delivered earlier than expected and the fish was unhealthy

Looks like velvet . And the foxface looks like he has black ich and some coral stings. But hard to tell in blue lighting. Could you get some white lighting pictures.

 

[Mflores888]

Looks like velvet . And the foxface looks like he has black ich and some coral stings. But hard to tell in blue lighting. Could you get some white lighting pictures.

That wouldn't be helpful now. I did a freshwater dip on the fish before adding them to the QT and he lost a lot of spots (which is something that happens with flukes but I don't know if it does as well with velvet). Right now the things he has left are bumps rather than any actual white or black they just look like bumps.

 

[SaltwaterGuruNeeded]

That wouldn't be helpful now. I did a freshwater dip on the fish before adding them to the QT and he lost a lot of spots (which is something that happens with flukes but I don't know if it does as well with velvet). Right now the things he has left are bumps rather than any actual white or black they just look like bumps.

Could still be from ich. Here is a helpful thread to save for diseases.

Fish Disease Index - Pictorial Guide

Pictorial Guide to Marine Fish Diseases Use this guide to find a picture that most closely matches your fish's symptoms. Click the link, if available for more detailed information on the disease and how to treat it. Ich (Cryptocaryon Irritans)...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Jay Hemdal]

About a week ago I was delivered a group of anthias (1 large male and 3 females). I wasn't home when they were delivered and my family put them into the tank. Fast forward I didn't realize that the large male was infected and at first I thought it was velvet but it didn't show the usual symptoms of hiding or swimming against the power heads. If it was ich it wouldn't be all the the fish like that. And it didn't have a slime coat like brook usually shows. The large male died 5 days later, the females the day after that, and now all my other fish are getting sick. My midas blenny is basically dead with a chewed up tail and what appears to be blindness in its right eye. My fox face is getting weird dots on its skin which in the 3 years I've had him he's never shown. I can go on but here are the symptoms most fish are showing.

White dots (ranging from few to a ton as shown in my clownfish)

Twitching head

Swimming very fast and then hiding

Heavy breathing

In the large male anthia it lost scales and it's tail was almost peeling off

Scratching

The blue tang, midnight clown and the fox face are the one's who show the most white on them. All the other fish are not showing as much. My mandarin also has some weird white slime on it but i was thinking maybe it's the protective mucus that is around him? The fish are still eating and 2 weeks later they are still holding on. I have looked around and compared as much as I could but I can't find something that looks like what they have at the moment.

Identifying disease under blue light is really tricky, and even under white light, you can't always make a firm diagnosis. However, based on the pictures and the description you gave, this is probably an advanced case of ich. It could possibly be velvet, but that is a lot rarer, and fish with it don't last very long.

I presume by now that most (all?) of the fish have died? If not, you could consider moving them to a treatment tank and dosing with copper, or possibly hyposalinity.

Jay

 

[Mflores888]

Identifying disease under blue light is really tricky, and even under white light, you can't always make a firm diagnosis. However, based on the pictures and the description you gave, this is probably an advanced case of ich. It could possibly be velvet, but that is a lot rarer, and fish with it don't last very long.

I presume by now that most (all?) of the fish have died? If not, you could consider moving them to a treatment tank and dosing with copper, or possibly hyposalinity.

Jay

Most of the fish did die, I still have maybe 6-8 fish left in the QT tank. They are all eating and showing less and less signs of sickness. I've being raising copper levels everyday since Sunday and I'm at the 0.79 mark as of this morning.

 

[Mflores888]

Could still be from ich. Here is a helpful thread to save for diseases.

Fish Disease Index - Pictorial Guide

Pictorial Guide to Marine Fish Diseases Use this guide to find a picture that most closely matches your fish's symptoms. Click the link, if available for more detailed information on the disease and how to treat it. Ich (Cryptocaryon Irritans)...

www.reef2reef.com

I've never seen ich kill this quick and my mandarin as well. This dude was covered in white slime and eventually died on Monday. I'm honestly not sure which disease it could be since it shows signs of different ones all at once. Whatever it is the rest of the fish are doing fine in the QT. Hopefully they can recover

 

[SaltwaterGuruNeeded]

I've never seen ich kill this quick and my mandarin as well. This dude was covered in white slime and eventually died on Monday. I'm honestly not sure which disease it could be since it shows signs of different ones all at once. Whatever it is the rest of the fish are doing fine in the QT. Hopefully they can recover

Update picture? White light?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Most of the fish did die, I still have maybe 6-8 fish left in the QT tank. They are all eating and showing less and less signs of sickness. I've being raising copper levels everyday since Sunday and I'm at the 0.79 mark as of this morning.

What copper product are you using? .79 is too high for Cupramine and way to low for Coppersafe or Copper power. You should be at full dose right away. This "slowly raising copper" idea is firmly entrenched in the hobby, but it is based on the old ionic copper treatments. If you are have lost fish to a disease, you need to get the copper to full dose in 24 hours.

Jay