Fixes to main parameter balance issues

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  1. Tim@Triton

    Tim@Triton Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Platinum Sponsor

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    Solutions to "balance issues"

    Scenario 1
    Alk Low
    Ca Low
    Mg Low
    Solution - Raise all equally

    Scenario 2
    Alk High
    Ca High
    Mg High
    Solution - Lower all equally

    Scenario 3
    Alk Ok
    Ca Ok
    Mg Ok
    Solution - Maintain dose

    Scenario 4
    Alk Low
    Ca Ok
    Mg Ok
    Solution - Maintain dose, dose additional TRITON CO3 liquid buffer/NaHCO DIY Salts to raise Alk then maintain

    Scenario 5
    Alk Ok
    Ca Low
    Mg Ok
    Solution - Maintain dose, dose additional TRITON Calcium liquid buffer/CaCl2 DIY Salts to raise Ca then maintain

    Scenario 6
    Alk Ok
    Ca Ok
    Mg Low
    Solution - Maintain dose, dose additional TRITON Magnesium liquid buffer/MgCl2 DIY Salts to raise Mg then maintain

    Scenario 7
    Alk Ok
    Ca High
    Mg Ok
    Solution - Maintain dose on channels 1/3a/3b reduce dose of channel 2 until Calcium level drops to required amount.

    Scenario 8
    Alk Ok
    Ca Ok
    Mg High
    Solution - Maintain dose, water change to reduce elevated Magnesium levels. (Only if Mg very high)

    Scenario 9
    Alk Ok
    Ca High
    Mg High
    Solution - Check KH test for accuracy, reduce dose of all solutions, set KH to 7 and retest.
     
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    I believe I read that 3a/3b dosage can be 20% higher than the others. Plenty of tanks consume slightly more Alk than Ca (I mean consume, not testing margin of error).

    If the tank can be balanced with 20% higher 3a/3b dose, is that still the recommendation or is it manually dose Alk to maintain equal dose of all 4?
     
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    Where did you read that?

    All doses should be equal, the only exception is when Calcium is too high then number 2 can be dosed differently
     
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    R2R, but can't find the post now. I recall someone quoting a Triton email response when the user asked about manually adding having to add Alk every 3rd day and the email stated while all doses should be equal, 15-20% variation was allowed on 3a/3b. My memory could be faulty or the user could have had bad info. Basically trying to get away from any manual dosing on long term unequal consumption.

    EDIT: This was in regard to 'other methods'
     
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    Hi Tim,
    Is there any scenario to follow when:
    - Alk is high: 9.2
    - Ca is low: 310
    - Mg is low: 1250
    I am dosing 8ml of each solution per day. Tonight I have reduced the 3a and 3b solution from 8ml per day to 6ml per day, should I need to use Ca and Mg buffer to increase the dose ?

    I am using the other method until my refugium is finished and ready for Triton.

    Thank you
     
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    Was your salt mix low on those elements to begin with?

    Double check your Alk reading for accuracy first, you can buffer Ca and Mg seperatley if you want but I would get all your main element parameters confirmed with the ICP if you haven't already before taking drastic action.
     
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    So I have scenario 9 with alk around 8.2, CA 500, mg 1600 (confirmation with icp should be done in next day or two. I haven't been dosing Core 7 1 for 1.5 or 2 months because the mg has been high. I have been doing water changes with red sea pro every 2 weeks. I am using the other methods core product because I had bad cyano and probably bryopsis growing strong with triton method core product. My chaeto isn't growing. I don't yet have enough flow through the sump and I recently switched from a sb relight on sump to a t5.
    120 gallon tank with trigger triton sump.

    What do you advise?
     
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    Well triton says mg is 1800! Calcium is 532. Potassium is 550. I think I am going to go back to brs 2 part. This is too complicated.
     
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    Well triton says mg is 1800! Calcium is 532. Potassium is 550. I think I am going to go back to brs 2 part. This is too complicated.
     
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    Hey Tim, I've been running Core7 for 5 weeks now. Alk tonight is 8.0, Ca is 440 and Mg is 1500. Should I be worried about the Mg level at 1500? I think all is good but thought I'd ask. Thank you sir!
     
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