Fluconazole is not permanent fix to algaes

[potatocouch]

so I been told and yes it does make sense because we don't really eradicate the source of the problem.

Some said that they will come back in approximate 6 - 8 months; so at first you think you killed those jerks and be happy for 6 months, only to see it slowly creeping up again.

What I don't get is, once we fluconazole and algaes starting to disappear and once they disappear completely, then we do all the extra husbandry and keep the water parameters pristine, will they still come back?

 

[Brew12]

so I been told and yes it does make sense because we don't really eradicate the source of the problem.

Some said that they will come back in approximate 6 - 8 months; so at first you think you killed those ******** and be happy for 6 months, only to see it slowly creeping up again.

What I don't get is, once we fluconazole and algaes starting to disappear and once they disappear completely, then we do all the extra husbandry and keep the water parameters pristine, will they still come back?

It is almost impossible for fluconazole to completely eliminate Bryopsis. The Bryopsis in high lighting will be impacted much more than the Bryopsis in shaded areas. My experience is that it will survive in shaded areas much longer than the typical single treatment. I have heard some people running 2 consecutive treatments to permanently eliminate it, or running lower levels of Fluco for long periods of time to eliminate it. I can't speak to how effective those methods are.

 

[HB AL]

Mine came back after a few months, lost some acros during treatment and others still recovering for now I just pick out what I can weekly. Might try a much lower dose for a longer time to see if I don’t see any negative effects on the corals while hoping it’s enough to kill it off completely, but I bet it comes back eventually.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

My bryopsis never came back. One treatment.
It doesn’t work that well on other algae's.

I would try Vibrant and other algecides.
Then a good qt method..

 

[potatocouch]

I would try Vibrant

Aaaaah yes I heard but illegal here in Australia.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Aaaaah yes I heard but illegal here in Australia.

Ah. Do they have the fauna Marin products there?
They have a couple that are quite nasty on algae.

 

[potatocouch]

Ah. Do they have the fauna Marin products there?
They have a couple that are quite nasty on algae.

Yes, looks like it ..
Which kind is nasty on Algae?
https://www.exoticaquacultureaustralia.com/collections/fauna-marin

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

The dino x. But you’ll want to do a big removal and retreatment as well.
The red stuff is nasty.

 

[potatocouch]

The dino x.The red stuff is nasty.

Ok thanks for the tips.

Which red stuff? Don't recall any red stuff there, unless you're mistaken with another user's picture?

There's another guy posted a picture in that thread lol

 

[NY_Caveman]

The dino x. But you’ll want to do a big removal and retreatment as well.
The red stuff is nasty.

And I hear it kills invertebrates.

 

[potatocouch]

And I hear it kills invertebrates.

As long as it kills Caulerpa, Bryopsis, GHA, Red Algae, Bubble Algae, Algae This, Algae That and doesn't kill Fish or Corals, I be happy

 

[landlubber]

Ah. Do they have the fauna Marin products there?
They have a couple that are quite nasty on algae.

and nasty on sps too. Dino x stressed and killed off enough coral that I had to halt the treatment after day 10.

 

[potatocouch]

What is Unidentified 1 and What is Unidentified 2 ?

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

What is Unidentified 1 and What is Unidentified 2 ?

Those pictures are not good.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

And I hear it kills invertebrates.

Hard to say. Was it treatment or the sudden release of toxins or a tank over dose. Vibrant was reported and i saw here it killing snails. Soo.

 

[NY_Caveman]

Hard to say. Was it treatment or the sudden release of toxins or a tank over dose. Vibrant was reported and i saw here it killing snails. Soo.

Well. Perhaps I was thinking of something else. I cannot find where I thought I saw it recently. According to Fauna Marine it is invertebrate safe “when used correctly.”

https://www.faunamarin.de/en/dino-x-250ml-remove-any-hairy-or-plague-type-algae/a-84/

 

[Timfish1]

In a healthy wild reef system corals are competing with algae for nutrients and herbivores are controlling the algae. Killing off the algae may be an easy short term fix but as pointed out in the OP it doesn't get rid of the underlying cause, which may not be a nutrient issue at all. It also puts at least some if not most of those nutrients locked up in the algae back in the water, which may lead to a nutrient issue or exacerbate a nutrient issue. Depending on how much total nitrogen and total phosphate is being processed in a system daily the increase in what's available might be good for corals and it might be bad for corals. Because of the complexity of the coral holobiont with a multitude of microbes and cyano being used by corals and an essential part of a corals immune system disrupting them may not have any OBVIOUS short term effect but may have long term consequences for a coral's health and growth. (Keep in mind the holobiont is different at the order, family, genus, species and genotype levels.) I for one would like to see studies of corals growth rates before and after being treated with anything "reef safe".

What is Unidentified 1 and What is Unidentified 2 ?

Pictures are too blue but my guesses are "Unidentified 1" is Derbesia or sporophyte stage of Asparagopsis and "Unidentified 2" is Calurpa peltata or C. racemosa.

 

[potatocouch]

Pictures are too blue but my guesses are "Unidentified 1" is Derbesia or sporophyte stage of Asparagopsis and "Unidentified 2" is Calurpa peltata or C. racemosa.

Thank you for attempting.