Hybrid RO/DI System Build

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I thought this would be helpful to anyone who is considering building a hybrid RO system for drinking water and 0 TDS deionized water for aquarium needs. I haven’t seen any write-ups or examples anywhere, so I thought I would share.

I live in a condo, so I don't really have the luxury of having a dedicated RO/DI unit for my saltwater/top-off needs. So, I had to improvise. Since I already have a RO drinking water system under my kitchen sink, I started drawing up a design for the hybrid system.


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I designed this system to produce delicious drinking water and independently produce 0 TDS water in the same system without cross contamination. It works flawlessly and I couldn't be happier how it performs. This is an over-thought, over killed RO system but that's just how I roll. It consists of:
  • BRS 75-GPD 7-Stage RO/DI system
  • Aquatec CDP 8800 Booster Pump
  • Aquatec 600mL Automatic Flush Valve
  • Aquatec 40 PSI Pressure Switch
  • 3.2 Gallon RO Water Storage Pressurized Tank (at 7 psi)
  • Vitev REMIN Ca - RO Remineralization Filter (For drinking water ONLY)
  • Omnipure Inline Carbon Block (For drinking water ONLY)
  • 1/4" Mur-Lok and John Guest fittings
  • 1/4" Mur-Lok Polyethylene RO tubing
  • 1/4" Parker Polyurethane Tubing
My city’s water is not great, by any means. It currently sits around 400-450 TDS. Based on your TDS, this system can be better optimized for your water conditions. I really wanted to get the 150-GPD Water Saver version of the BRS RO unit, but BRS doesn’t recommend the water saver variant for water above 300+ TDS or for a drinking water system due to the pressurized tank working against the RO membrane and increasing the wastewater production. You would need to add a permeate pump and less than 300 TDS to make the 150-GPD or 200-GPD RO unit a viable option.

The system utilizes a booster pump because my water pressure sits around 50 psi. To get near full potential of the 99% projected rejection rate of the RO membrane and produce more than 75 gallons per day out of the system, I upped the water pressure to 80 psi. You can go up 90 psi but due to the complexity of the design, I didn't want to push it too far and create a greater risk of leaks. It can produce 5 gallons of RO/DI within 1.25 hours, which is about 96 gallons per day at 80 psi. Not too shabby for a 75-GPD system I will say.

The Aquatec 40 psi pressure switch works in conjunction with the included ASO that comes with the BRS unit. The placement is very important for it to function as intended.

The Aquatec Automatic Flush Valve is a quality-of-life addition and I love it. I used to own a SpectraPure RO/DI unit 10+ years ago and I can’t say how many times I forgot to flush the system before or after use and when I did, the number of times I would leave the flush valve engaged and just waste water. No pun intended lol. I chose the 600mL version, instead of the standard 500mL, due to my high TDS, to flush the RO membrane more aggressively and decrease the amount of TDS creep in the system. It flushes before the booster pump turns on, after the booster pump turns off, and each hour after continuous use.

The first 3 stages all use 1-micron filters. First stage is a 1-micron sediment filter and the second and third stages are 1-micron carbon blocks. The booster pump is placed after the third stage to protect the booster pump from debris getting stuck or damaging the pump over time.

I opted for the 3-stage DI canister setup (part of the BRS 7-Stage RO unit) due to my high TDS. I really like the idea of An-ion and Cat-ion being independent in the first 2 stages and a mixed bed resin of the two resins, as the last stage. I haven’t discovered yet which of the two will be exhausted quicker but something I am curious about. I’m hoping that replacement/repacking the resins will be as infrequent as it seems, especially since I am not producing that much water on a weekly basis for my 20 gallon reef tank.

My wife and I love our pour over and espresso coffees. So, I’m trying a new remineralizer, the Vitev REMIN Ca - RO Remineralization Filter, that has gotten a lot of hype from coffee and drinking water lovers. They also have an alkaline version of the filter that I will try next. I also added a carbon block/water polisher after the mineralizer for taste reasons. This is common practice for drinking water systems. I must say, the water is delicious and very pleasant to drink. We’re like camels in this house. We drink the stuff by the gallon every day.

The ¼” lines are more than sufficient to push water to the very close water faucet and the refrigerator that sits about 12 feet away. Some may think they need 3/8” lines but unless you’re pumping water 25+ feet away, ¼” is fine.

A leak detector is something I cannot stress enough for an under-sink RO system. This will turn a disastrous situation into a light clean up. It’s cheap and it doesn’t rely on electronics to shut the system off.

The check valves have been meticulously placed for proper flow direction. Without them, you risk cross contamination of the system or higher than post RO membrane water entering the DI stages. I have added a couple of redundant ball valves, just in case if the check valve fails, I don’t want to risk exhausting the DI resins prematurely. The ball valve before entering the DI stage is redundant to the ball valve after the DI stages but the reason for it is simple. When the system is being pressurized by the booster pump, it is also pressurizing the DI canisters. Excess pressure that is not necessary and reduces the risk of leaks.

Some might ask, why am I using polyurethane tubing and where. It is only being used after the DI stages (light blue tubing in image) for ease of maneuvering the hose into a bucket and storing away after use. The standard Polyethylene tubing is quite rigid and difficult to maneuver. It can handle pressures above 250 psi and is hard enough to be used in push-connect fittings. Hence why I added a ball valve before the DI stages to avoid pressurizing the DI housings and polyurethane tubing.

The tubing is color coded for water type:
  • Red for feed water
  • Black for wastewater
  • White for drinking water
  • Blue for deionized water
With 5 TDS probes, I’m checking the feed water, post RO stage, post mineralizer stage, post An-ion and Cat-ion stage, and post Mixed resin stage.
  • TDS-1: 400-450
  • TDS-2: 10-12
  • TDS-3: 25-36
  • TDS-4: 0
  • TDS-5: 0
Overall, the system runs great and works as intended. I can produce RO/DI water and still use the faucet/water dispenser without losing pressure on either end, all under my kitchen sink. For me, this is zero compromise system that keeps my wife and I very happy.

I hope this is helpful to some who are also interested in building a similar system under their kitchen sink or elsewhere.

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That will work. I have something similar. I don't use it for drinking water yet, but this does illustrate how easy it could be. I have my system fill a 50G drum after the RO membrane to use as a C02 degass chamber and then another small pump to push thru the 3 stage DI.

I may look into adding the drinking water pressure tank and feed the fridge and faucet from the 50G drum via a separate pressure pump
 
This is neat! Thanks for sharing!
 
Thank you for posting this. I need to get going on doing mine.
Do you also plan on building a hybrid system?
That will work. I have something similar. I don't use it for drinking water yet, but this does illustrate how easy it could be. I have my system fill a 50G drum after the RO membrane to use as a C02 degass chamber and then another small pump to push thru the 3 stage DI.

I may look into adding the drinking water pressure tank and feed the fridge and faucet from the 50G drum via a separate pressure pump
After drawing out what needed to be done, it was actually very easy.

What do you use the C02 degassing chamber for?

That would be an awesome setup. If you plan on mineralizing the water before going into the drinking water pressure tank, just make sure the pressure from the tank doesn't push back into the 50G drum via a check valve and/or ball valve. You can also mineralize the water after the drinking water pressure tank and before the faucet/fridge. The drinking water has less contact time in this configuration, but just in case of a back pressure failure, your 50G drum wouldn't get contaminated.
 
Do you also plan on building a hybrid system?

After drawing out what needed to be done, it was actually very easy.

What do you use the C02 degassing chamber for?

That would be an awesome setup. If you plan on mineralizing the water before going into the drinking water pressure tank, just make sure the pressure from the tank doesn't push back into the 50G drum via a check valve and/or ball valve. You can also mineralize the water after the drinking water pressure tank and before the faucet/fridge. The drinking water has less contact time in this configuration, but just in case of a back pressure failure, your 50G drum wouldn't get contaminated.
Yes, I just asked BRS a question and maybe you will know. My system would be about 50 ft away from the drinking water tank under the kitchen sink. I do have a booster pump. Would that long of a run work, or would i need a completely new system under the sink?

Funny enough I also have a C02 degassing reservoir for my RODI system as well. Most likely, he gets he water supply from a well like I do. What happens is that after the RO stage the C02 in the water increases and depletes the anion resin EXTREMELY quickly. The degassing chamber/reservoir is a holding reservoir where we use pumps to aerate the water to off-gas the C02. After about 24-48 hours that water is then low enough in C02 to safely pass through the DI stage. Before I did this my anion would deplete, making only 60 gallons or less. Now, I've made hundreds of gallons and hardly any resin has been spent.
 
Do you also plan on building a hybrid system?

After drawing out what needed to be done, it was actually very easy.

What do you use the C02 degassing chamber for?

That would be an awesome setup. If you plan on mineralizing the water before going into the drinking water pressure tank, just make sure the pressure from the tank doesn't push back into the 50G drum via a check valve and/or ball valve. You can also mineralize the water after the drinking water pressure tank and before the faucet/fridge. The drinking water has less contact time in this configuration, but just in case of a back pressure failure, your 50G drum wouldn't get contaminated.

I am running off well water and no matter what I did I was burning thru DI. Someone sugfested the degass chamber to help rid of excess c02 before pushing thru the DI.

It seems to help but really need to ad a air pump and not just a powerhead with air feed
 
A fine pore ceramic airstone will make a big difference.
 
Yes, I just asked BRS a question and maybe you will know. My system would be about 50 ft away from the drinking water tank under the kitchen sink. I do have a booster pump. Would that long of a run work, or would i need a completely new system under the sink?

Funny enough I also have a C02 degassing reservoir for my RODI system as well. Most likely, he gets he water supply from a well like I do. What happens is that after the RO stage the C02 in the water increases and depletes the anion resin EXTREMELY quickly. The degassing chamber/reservoir is a holding reservoir where we use pumps to aerate the water to off-gas the C02. After about 24-48 hours that water is then low enough in C02 to safely pass through the DI stage. Before I did this my anion would deplete, making only 60 gallons or less. Now, I've made hundreds of gallons and hardly any resin has been spent.
You can definitely run a 50 foot line to a pressurized tank. I would suggest running 3/8" RO lines but 1/4" will also do just fine. This is only possible due to your booster pump. You may have run between 80-90 psi.

Ahh! I had a feeling it was for well water systems. Such a clever way of reducing C02 from the source water. Works pretty much like a secondary chamber of a calcium reactor.
 
I am running off well water and no matter what I did I was burning thru DI. Someone sugfested the degass chamber to help rid of excess c02 before pushing thru the DI.

It seems to help but really need to ad a air pump and not just a powerhead with air feed
I had good luck with just putting a pump at the bottom of the barrel, pushing the water up. Doing that has worked well for me. I'm sure the air stone would probably lower the C02 faster though.
 
You can definitely run a 50 foot line to a pressurized tank. I would suggest running 3/8" RO lines but 1/4" will also do just fine. This is only possible due to your booster pump. You may have run between 80-90 psi.

Ahh! I had a feeling it was for well water systems. Such a clever way of reducing C02 from the source water. Works pretty much like a secondary chamber of a calcium reactor.
That's what they suggested too. Going to order some stuff today to get mine going. Thanks
 
I have a house so did mine a little differently. I have had a RO unit in my kitchen for years for drinking water, Ice tea making, etc. It was replaced 5 years ago when our kitchen was rebuilt but it is a 75GPD which is more than enough for that.

About 2 months ago when I knew I was going to get back into this hobbie I bought a 200GPD of the same brand so I can save a little when buying replacement filters. I installed it in my garage so I can have a place to make the salt water for water changes but also had a line ran from it directly to the tank for an ATO unit and a line for any manual use when needed.
 
Yes. These come with 1/4" fittings permanently attached to the filter housing.
Sorry to bug you but I just noticed something on your diagram. What is the the purpose of running your booster pump after the RO filters? Is this an additional unit to pump to your sink? Also noticed your pressure switch if after the RO stage as well. I have mine after the DI output which goes to a float valve in my reservoir. Can you explain this a little more for me please?
 
I run my booster after the sediment and carbon filters. They do not require high pressure to be efficient.
I installed a pressure gauge before the 3 stages to see incoming pressure and before the booster. these two are to compare filter life, if I see a large difference in pressure between these two I know filters are getting plugged.

Then run a gauge after the booster to know exactly what pressure my RO membrane is at. at those same gauge locations i have a TDS meter input along with after the RO and finally after DI to monitor the system as a whole.
 
I run my booster after the sediment and carbon filters. They do not require high pressure to be efficient.
I installed a pressure gauge before the 3 stages to see incoming pressure and before the booster. these two are to compare filter life, if I see a large difference in pressure between these two I know filters are getting plugged.

Then run a gauge after the booster to know exactly what pressure my RO membrane is at. at those same gauge locations i have a TDS meter input along with after the RO and finally after DI to monitor the system as a whole.
Makes sense, thank you.
 
Thanks. I also just ordered that remineralizer you suggested. Pretty pricey. Hope it tastes good at least lol.
My wife and I have really enjoyed the taste, this far. We've been using it for the past 3 months and the TDS output has stayed consistent around 27-32. No sign of it slowing down yet and we drink roughly a gallon or more day for each of us. Let me know what you think of it.

Sorry to bug you but I just noticed something on your diagram. What is the the purpose of running your booster pump after the RO filters? Is this an additional unit to pump to your sink? Also noticed your pressure switch if after the RO stage as well. I have mine after the DI output which goes to a float valve in my reservoir. Can you explain this a little more for me please?
No worries. As @PPBlimpy had mention, its best practice to run the booster pump after the sediment filters to avoid possibility damaging the pump from sediments. Some companies add a small prefilter before the booster pump for the same reason. My configuration is overkill protection but does the job without added complexity or additional points of failure.

The preasure switch is in the correct location for your setup, if you are just using it as a standard RO/DI unit. The reason mine is setup after the RO membrane is because the preasure switch and booster pump can be activated through both the drinking water and the DI path. So if i open the valve to make DI water, the preasure will drop immediately, activate the preasure switch, and turn on the booster pump. Once I shut the valve, the preasure switch will deactivate, and turn the booster pump off. Same for the drinking water side. After the preasure drops in the drinking water tank, the preasure switch gets activated, and turns on the booster pump. Once the tank reaches targeted preasure, the preasure switch will deactivate, and turn off the the booster pump. This way, the booster pump gets utilized for both sides of the filter independently, instead of just the DI side or drinking water side.

I run my booster after the sediment and carbon filters. They do not require high pressure to be efficient.
I installed a pressure gauge before the 3 stages to see incoming pressure and before the booster. these two are to compare filter life, if I see a large difference in pressure between these two I know filters are getting plugged.

Then run a gauge after the booster to know exactly what pressure my RO membrane is at. at those same gauge locations i have a TDS meter input along with after the RO and finally after DI to monitor the system as a whole.
@PPBlimpy This is a great idea with the pressure guage placements. I plan on replacing the sediment filters every 6 months regardless.

At what pressure variance do you decide to change the sediment filters?
 
My wife and I have really enjoyed the taste, this far. We've been using it for the past 3 months and the TDS output has stayed consistent around 27-32. No sign of it slowing down yet and we drink roughly a gallon or more day for each of us. Let me know what you think of it.


No worries. As @PPBlimpy had mention, its best practice to run the booster pump after the sediment filters to avoid possibility damaging the pump from sediments. Some companies add a small prefilter before the booster pump for the same reason. My configuration is overkill protection but does the job without added complexity or additional points of failure.

The preasure switch is in the correct location for your setup, if you are just using it as a standard RO/DI unit. The reason mine is setup after the RO membrane is because the preasure switch and booster pump can be activated through both the drinking water and the DI path. So if i open the valve to make DI water, the preasure will drop immediately, activate the preasure switch, and turn on the booster pump. Once I shut the valve, the preasure switch will deactivate, and turn the booster pump off. Same for the drinking water side. After the preasure drops in the drinking water tank, the preasure switch gets activated, and turns on the booster pump. Once the tank reaches targeted preasure, the preasure switch will deactivate, and turn off the the booster pump. This way, the booster pump gets utilized for both sides of the filter independently, instead of just the DI side or drinking water side.


@PPBlimpy This is a great idea with the pressure guage placements. I plan on replacing the sediment filters every 6 months regardless.

At what pressure variance do you decide to change the sediment filters?
This is great information, thanks a bunch. I'm going to follow your setup. I just got all my packages in so I'll get to it in the next few weeks. In the meantime I'll go ahead and place my booster after the sediment and carbon filters. I'm on well water and it gets nasty very quick. I'm surprised I haven't ran into issues with it already.
 

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