Ich????

[vcnt]

Is this fish having ich!!?!

I just noticed this out of nowhere

What do i do!!!

#fishm#fishmedics eating nori fine right now

 

[Reef Jedi]

This does look like ich

You will need to pull all fish to put in quarantine and treat with copper.

@Fish Fan #medic

 

[vcnt]

This does look like ich

You will need to pull all fish to put in quarantine and treat with copper.

@Fish Fan #medic

I cant do that

This is really out of nowhere

 

[Fish Fan]

Please wait for the other, more knowledgeable Fish Medic guys to confirm, but this looks like a mix of Ich and mucus cones to me.

If so, likely treatment of all fish in a separate aquarium is warranted, unfortunately

Depending on what other animals you have in your display tank, the Fish Medics may have some other options, such as running hyposalinity.

#fishmedic

Best of luck!

 

[vetteguy53081]

Is this fish having ich!!?!

I just noticed this out of nowhere

What do i do!!!

#fishm#fishmedics eating nori fine right now

These are mucus cones often from a skin irritation and at times are mixed in with ich and Often you will notice other occupants show no signs but recommended is to remove all fish and treat them as well using coppersafe or copper power for a full 30 days at 2.25ppm which they respond to well and add an air stone and monitor copper level with a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Is this fish having ich!!?!

I just noticed this out of nowhere

What do i do!!!

#fishm#fishmedics eating nori fine right now

That's a classic case of marine ich, Cryptocaryon. The spots on the fins are the way to tell this apart from mucus plugs.

The number of spots may come and go over a period of days, but these will generally increase in number and spread to the other fish.

I'm afraid this is going to need to be treated by moving all of the fish to another tank with no invertebrates or corals and treating them there, and not returning the fish to this tank for 60 days. Your two best treatment options are coppersafe or hyposalinity.

 

[vcnt]

I'm afraid this is going to need to be treated by moving all of the fish to another tank with no invertebrates or corals and treating them there, and not returning the fish to this tank for 60 days. Your two best treatment options are coppersafe or hyposalinity.

is there any ways to do it without taking all fish out? This really isnt possible for me, i have blue tang, mandarin , clown. Coris Wrasse, algae blenny, gold sleeper goby and 2 pajama fish. And firefish

 

[vcnt]

Is this fish having ich!!?!

I just noticed this out of nowhere

What do i do!!!

#fishm#fishmedics eating nori fine right now

These are mucus cones often from a skin irritation and at times are mixed in with ich and Often you will notice other occupants show no signs but recommended is to remove all fish and treat them as well using coppersafe or copper power for a full 30 days at 2.25ppm which they respond to well and add an air stone and monitor copper level with a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone.

How could I tell of its just Mucus Cones/Bacterial Tuffts? Or ich?

They look a little raised which i saw online (i think humble fish) describes bacterial

 

[Fish Fan]

How could I tell of its just Mucus Cones/Bacterial Tuffts? Or ich?

They look a little raised which i saw online (i think humble fish) describes bacterial

I think you're wishful thinking

What other fish and animals do you have in your tank? Hyposalinity may be an option, here's Jay's article on running hypo:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/hyposalinity.880546/

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

That's a classic case of marine ich, Cryptocaryon. The spots on the fins are the way to tell this apart from mucus plugs.

The number of spots may come and go over a period of days, but these will generally increase in number and spread to the other fish.

I'm afraid this is going to need to be treated by moving all of the fish to another tank with no invertebrates or corals and treating them there, and not returning the fish to this tank for 60 days. Your two best treatment options are coppersafe or hyposalinity.

Sorry, I don’t think anything but a full treatment is going to work in this case. I think there are already too many spots to trench management, and you’d need a strong UV sterilizers for that method to work.

There are lots of “reef safe”’ich medications on the market, but they all have dismal track records….

 

[vetteguy53081]

How could I tell of its just Mucus Cones/Bacterial Tuffts? Or ich?

They look a little raised which i saw online (i think humble fish) describes bacterial

Mucus cones will be a little raised and even have little threads on them , not always

 

[winxp_man]

Post a video or pics under bright white lights if you can. But what most will call mucus cones only, almost 99% of the time turn out to be ich. Had a powder that just graduated QT yesterday. At first only on the body, a few days later ended up on its fins to. I did scraps in between the numbers of dots, and at first I couldn’t get any ich to see from the scraps. It was after about a week when numbers increased that I was able to confirm.

Also aside from stress, and dirty water, a tank in need of a dire WC, mucus cones will not show up on a fish. So if your fish is not stressed at all times, in a tank with dirty water, it will be ich a majority of the time.

As stated above with management. It’s only possible if there are a few specs here and there. What happens and how ich works is a numbers game. We don’t own the ocean in our tanks. What do I mean by that? The bio load the ocean carries vs what our tanks carry is not even close. So our tanks, if fish become over infected, become breeding grounds for these diseases.

Sadly, they will only keep multiplying more and more. To take it from me, having tried many things, including H2O2 dosing on a daily, there is nothing that is reef safe that will help your fish unfortunately. See management working in tanks that are super mature tanks, that do have, somewhat, a bio load that can mimic nature. But even then, it becomes a discussion of much study being needed on the tank to see what the bio status is if it. Few people have such tanks.

So QT it should be for people getting into this hobby, but many are not given the option or told about it. A LFS will encourage you to simply hurry up and buy!

Follow the protocol from here. And your fish will be just fine.

I will not tell you what you need to do in the end and what route to take. But I will say this…. If you do decide that management is the better route, don’t be surprised if you end up with dead fish. And I don’t mean this in a bad way, or to talk down upon what decision you will take. But sayin that it might happened in the end.


Here is a pic of some of the fish I have. All QT’ed and nothing not QT’ed or ran fallow for 60 days is going to this tank! I have owned some of these fish from 2”, and they are now 5.5”!….

To me personally QT is worth it every bit.