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Different fish have different levels of susceptibility to ich. mandarins are at the least susceptible end of the spectrum, but they certainly can get it. Hard to say for sure what you are dealing with. If the spots have been there for ten days it seems unlikely to be velvet. Are the fish behaving normally? Eating? Ich spots generally disappear after a few days only to reappear in greater numbers as the parasite goes through its normal lifecycle. Have you observed that? May be worth doing nothing for a bit just to be sure.
I've have seen the spots for a while now on the fishes fins, These whites spots then moved to the fishes body, and now my clowns are partially covered. I would say its been at least 2 weeks. I did recently notice my royal gramma scratching himself on the rocks about 4-5 days ago, now he's on the sandbed chilling, I am going to try to get him to eat some frozen and see how he reacts.
 

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I appreciate all the help you've given me, but for the time being, I won't be able to set a qt. I recently bought an auto top off for my display, and I am trying to prepare it for my absence. It will be near impossible for me to run 2 tanks while I am gone. I might attempt attacking the ich when I return so on that note I am going to throw multiple sponges and other stuff in my sump to get bacteria over it so it's ready for a qt. Another struggle is trying to get that medication for my mandarins, I mean I could easily get cupermine on Amazon and it'd be at my door the next day. Sorry for going on a rant
 

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I appreciate all the help you've given me, but for the time being, I won't be able to set a qt. I recently bought an auto top off for my display, and I am trying to prepare it for my absence. It will be near impossible for me to run 2 tanks while I am gone. I might attempt attacking the ich when I return so on that note I am going to throw multiple sponges and other stuff in my sump to get bacteria over it so it's ready for a qt. Another struggle is trying to get that medication for my mandarins, I mean I could easily get cupermine on Amazon and it'd be at my door the next day. Sorry for going on a rant
Glad to help. Biospira is a great way to establish and maintain bacteria in a qt, sponges will help but if they aren't seeded for at least a month you could run into some issues.

If you're traveling to a place where you could possibly contract malaria you may want to visit your doctor to see about getting a prescription for chloroquine phosphate as a preventative treatment for yourself...
 

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Cupramine is my go to for Ich and Velvet. Need Hanna checker to ensure copper remains at .50ppm for 4weeks. Use half the dose that sachems recommends and slowly increase the levels over 3-4 days depending on healthy your fish are.

I do agree with conducting a FWD just to rule out fluke and at the very least give relief. @ca1ore asked great questions about the timeline of the spots. Ich will drop off the fish between 3-7 days and Velvet kills very quickly. Clowns are more susceptible to brooklynella but it is hard to tell by the photos posted.

I recommend setting up QT and getting cupramine, prazipro, seachems metro and focus just in case. It is always great practice to have on hand.

Keep asking questions and keep R2R peeps in the loop on the progress...
 

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Those photos have tiny spots seemingly focused on the top half of the fish primarily. That’s generally early brook. There is a good chance you also have ich or velvet— the spots of brook are generally similar to velvet other than centralized on the top of the fish.

Copper + Metroplex or CP would be my suggestion.
 
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Those photos have tiny spots seemingly focused on the top half of the fish primarily. That’s generally early brook. There is a good chance you also have ich or velvet— the spots of brook are generally similar to velvet other than centralized on the top of the fish.

Copper + Metroplex or CP would be my suggestion.
I placed both clowns in a seachem para guard dip just in case if it was brook and they were totally chill in there. They stayed in the dip for an hour then I placed them back I to the tank, the spots remained. I think I can rule out brook as the dip would have helped and removed some of the spots.
 

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FWIW, I had ich when I first set up my tank and decided to get an oversized UV filter. It's been over a year and none of my fish have even a single spot (and I have an Achilles and a Hippo tang, both known to be terrible ich magnets). I also believe that feeding a good variety of frozen foods and algae sheets is essential.
 

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I placed both clowns in a seachem para guard dip just in case if it was brook and they were totally chill in there. They stayed in the dip for an hour then I placed them back I to the tank, the spots remained. I think I can rule out brook as the dip would have helped and removed some of the spots.

Remember the spots are just excess mucous, you can’t see the actual parasite ;) The dip was a good precaution in either case, and metroplex is pretty easy to administer with copper if you want to be extra safe.
 

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Paraguard should work for them all. Note your mandrian will likely starve in a qt and your yellow tang if not tiny will get aggressive in that small of a tank. Alot of people fight ich with good water and food. Most fish other than tangs can get past ich in a good tank.
 

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