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It is a fatal disease unless treated.
FWD is a fairly low risk treatment and will take care of ANY NUMBERS OF SMALL ECTOPARASITES.
ok, since we have now reduced ourelves to using all caps...YOUR COMMENT HERE IS EXACTLY THE POINT INWAS MAKING. 1
PMD IS AN UMBRELLA TERM, 2. FWD.IS EFFECTIVE AT TREATING THIS SYMPTOM, 3. BECAUSE THE UNDERLYING ETIOLOGY CAN BE MULTIFACTORIAL (CAN HAVE MANY COMPONENTS AND/OR CAUSES) IT CAN COME ABOUT SUDDENLY, AS IN MY CASE, AND PER MY ORIGINAL COMMENT THAT IT IS INACCURATE TO SAY THAT IT CANNOT COME OUT OF THE BLUE WITHOUT ADDING AN INFECTED CLAM. IT SURELY CAN..SORRY. 😀
 
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@OrionN and @gigasclam1972 thank you both for your input and advice. I did a fresh water dip yesterday for 45 min. This is a pic of the clam this morning. Any other advice or suggestions for me?
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Why don’t you try out of the sand higher up closer to your lights. No sign of any irritatant on the shell when you had it out of the tank?
 

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Sometimes more than one FWD is required. It is best to let the clam recover a couple days before you treat again. Typically, a positive response will be seen within a couple days. If no joy within 5 days, then re treat. 30 min is sufficient for the treatment.

In your case, I would hold on further treatments as your clam doesn't look too bad, tbh (based on a single picture of course 😉)
 

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@gigasclam1972 did you read OrionN's article on PMD? He described and defined what PMD is. It is not a blanket/umbrella term for a variety of things that might cause mantle retraction.

Enjoyed your photo from May this year in the gigas grow out thread. Curious though how you have not added clams for several years but have a couple 3" blue squamosa? Have they been with you for that long?

Did you take any photos of the clams when they were ailing?

Sorry OP! Hope your clam recovers! Try turning up the white lights when photographing. Still can't really see much. I do agree with the others though that it should be higher up and not down on the sand.
 

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@gigasclam1972 did you read OrionN's article on PMD? He described and defined what PMD is. It is not a blanket/umbrella term for a variety of things that might cause mantle retraction.

Enjoyed your photo from May this year in the gigas grow out thread. Curious though how you have not added clams for several years but have a couple 3" blue squamosa? Have they been with you for that long?

Did you take any photos of the clams when they were ailing?

Sorry OP! Hope your clam recovers! Try turning up the white lights when photographing. Still can't really see much. I do agree with the others though that it should be higher up and not down on the sand.

Yes, I am aware of the article, but am also aware that the Wau Island clam farm in the Marshall Islands developed this practice by accident (rain water exposure) and subsequently implemented this regularly in the 1980s, so if the author wants to claim inventorship then that's his business.

If you look at the authors comments above, he also notes that pmd is a blanket term...which it is.

I have had those squam for quite a long time...received at 1". Thanks for asking!
 

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I see a Vermedit snail or some type of worm in a tube on the left hand side of the shell.

I’d nip that off at the base with wire clippers.

Mine do that if nipped by a fish.

So far, over the years, it’s not led to death.
 

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I see a Vermedit snail or some type of worm in a tube on the left hand side of the shell.

I’d nip that off at the base with wire clippers.

Mine do that if nipped by a fish.

So far, over the years, it’s not led to death.
I see it also. Nice clam btw
 

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FWD is helpful for treating a numbers if soft body external parasites. Not helpful in Paramid infestation because these snails have shells. Fortunately we don’t see a lot of other parasites on clams, at least in my 30 years of keeping clams. I normally do not recommend FWD unless I am reasonably sure it is PMD.
To my eyes , it looks better now than when you first finished dipping it.
 

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White light photos please!!!!!!

Can you list your tank parameters?
You mentioned 250 par. How was this determined?
What lights and what settings?
 
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White light photos please!!!!!!

Can you list your tank parameters?
You mentioned 250 par. How was this determined?
What lights and what settings?
Radion G6’s at 50%. I measured PAR with an apogee. parameters are all good
Alk 8.1
Cal 450
Mag 1350
 

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The clam looks much better after the freshwater dip. I still suggest raising the clam.
 

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Just move the clam to a proper place in the rock, closer to the lights and a secure location. Give it some time and hopefully it will recover. Like others mentioned, inspect the shell for any irritants/pests like aiptasia, vermitids, etc.
 

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