My modified qt protocol

[JonasRoman]

Hi. Next week my Acanthurus pyroferus will arriive and will be quarantined. All my fish have gone through a protocol but I have done different depending on the fish, like its sensitivity for cupper etc.
I hava basically used 2 methods. None of the are perfect but have worked fine for me with no diseases in my DT so far.
The 2 methods are decribed here. For my coming Acanthurus pyroferus I plan to use "method 2". When I say formaline bath I always mean 200 ppm, in 45 min.

Any comments or inputs are valuable.

Method 1: Fish go through a formaline bath before enter QT. After 7 days I get them another formaline bath, and place back in the QT which meantine has been totally cleaned and 100% new water. Finaly after 2 weeks, I let them go to the DT through a third Formaline bath.
I used this for my :Anthias, juvenile navarchus, bispinosus, goldflake.

Method 2: Fish go through a formaline bath before enter QT. In QT, Cuppersulfate 0.15-0.2 ppm every day for 2 weeks. Passed a second formaline bath after the 14 days QT prior to enter the DT.
This I did on my leucosternon, naso, imperator.

Jonas

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hi. Next week my Acanthurus pyroferus will arriive and will be quarantined. All my fish have gone through a protocol but I have done different depending on the fish, like its sensitivity for cupper etc.
I hava basically used 2 methods. None of the are perfect but have worked fine for me with no diseases in my DT so far.
The 2 methods are decribed here. For my coming Acanthurus pyroferus I plan to use "method 2". When I say formaline bath I always mean 200 ppm, in 45 min.

Any comments or inputs are valuable.

Method 1: Fish go through a formaline bath before enter QT. After 7 days I get them another formaline bath, and place back in the QT which meantine has been totally cleaned and 100% new water. Finaly after 2 weeks, I let them go to the DT through a third Formaline bath.
I used this for my :Anthias, juvenile navarchus, bispinosus, goldflake.

Method 2: Fish go through a formaline bath before enter QT. In QT, Cuppersulfate 0.15-0.2 ppm every day for 2 weeks. Passed a second formaline bath after the 14 days QT prior to enter the DT.
This I did on my leucosternon, naso, imperator.

Jonas

Skip the formalin which has health and handling risks
Go to coppersafe which is very safe at 2.25ppm for a full 30 days and keep an eye on ammonia levels . Coppsafe starts to take effect at 2.0ppm

 

[JonasRoman]

Skip the formalin which has health and handling risks
Go to coppersafe which is very safe at 2.25ppm for a full 30 days and keep an eye on ammonia levels . Coppsafe starts to take effect at 2.0ppm

we dont have cuppersafe in sweden, so I will go for pure cuppersulfate. No problem, I have done it many times and measure every day with photometer.
I have good experience with formaline, no fish death so far. The solution is that one from bluexxxx, which is very diluted, it contains 0.5 ml 37% formaldehyde in 10 ml water, so 20 times diluted on those bags, so its no problem to handle that (ofcourse with still som care).

reason of my combo is that I will eliminate flukes, and brook, that cupper will not do.

 

[vetteguy53081]

we dont have cuppersafe in sweden, so I will go for pure cuppersulfate. No problem, I have done it many times and measure every day with photometer.
I have good experience with formaline, no fish death so far. The solution is that one from bluexxxx, which is very diluted, it contains 0.5 ml 37% formaldehyde in 10 ml water, so 20 times diluted on those bags, so its no problem to handle that (ofcourse with still som care).

reason of my combo is that I will eliminate flukes, and brook, that cupper will not do.

Sweden, you should have copperpower which works the same. You should also have seachem Cupramin which recommended to be dosed at .45 ppm

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hi. Next week my Acanthurus pyroferus will arriive and will be quarantined. All my fish have gone through a protocol but I have done different depending on the fish, like its sensitivity for cupper etc.
I hava basically used 2 methods. None of the are perfect but have worked fine for me with no diseases in my DT so far.
The 2 methods are decribed here. For my coming Acanthurus pyroferus I plan to use "method 2". When I say formaline bath I always mean 200 ppm, in 45 min.

Any comments or inputs are valuable.

Method 1: Fish go through a formaline bath before enter QT. After 7 days I get them another formaline bath, and place back in the QT which meantine has been totally cleaned and 100% new water. Finaly after 2 weeks, I let them go to the DT through a third Formaline bath.
I used this for my :Anthias, juvenile navarchus, bispinosus, goldflake.

Method 2: Fish go through a formaline bath before enter QT. In QT, Cuppersulfate 0.15-0.2 ppm every day for 2 weeks. Passed a second formaline bath after the 14 days QT prior to enter the DT.
This I did on my leucosternon, naso, imperator.

Jonas

I stopped using formalin baths on newly acquired fish, especially those shipped to me - the mortality rate was unacceptably high. It also has severe human health concerns - you should not use it inside a home, as it de-gasses into the room air. Doses for formalin need to be carefully controlled. There are MANY incorrect references online that indicate the dips should be at 250 ppm. That is a grave error! That dose was designed for cold water marine fishes. For tropical marine fishes, the dose for a dip should be 167 ppm for 45 minutes to one hour, with good aeration.

Ionic copper as you describe also has a higher mortality rate than does amine-chelated copper. I'm not sure if you can acquire that product (Coppersafe or Copper Power) but you will find that the mortality rate in using those products at 2.25 ppm is minimal.

My updated quarantine protocol is here:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/current-quarantine-protocol.825055/