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My apologies. I should concentrate on valuable subjects.@A. grandis can we calm it down a little bit?
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My apologies. I should concentrate on valuable subjects.@A. grandis can we calm it down a little bit?
I gotta say, I sincerely appreciate your passion for metal halide lighting. I really do. I've used it myself and really liked it. I'm not ashamed to admit that. It just gets really old really fast. Every LED thread you enter you go on a rampage. Just need to calm it down a bit. Were all here to have fun and discuss. Not to be bantered and argued with. So let's keep it fun that's all I askMy apologies. I should concentrate on valuable subjects.
Many are doing "just fine" with LEDs. We hear that all the time.I am a big MH fan but just because LA uses MH doesn’t prove any point. That isn’t real data that shows MH is better than LED. WWC and Jason Fox are all T-5 and LED and they are doing just fine. Battlecorals uses all lighting platforms too. Compared to LA I would say that WWC is dominating the market for aquaculture raised corals. Is it fair to say that WWC gets paid for their love affair with radions? Yeah. But if they didnt work they wouldn’t use them.
;SmugI gotta say, I sincerely appreciate your passion for metal halide lighting. I really do. I've used it myself and really liked it. I'm not ashamed to admit that. It just gets really old really fast. Every LED thread you enter you go on a rampage. Just need to calm it down a bit. Were all here to have fun and discuss. Not to be bantered and argued with. So let's keep it fun that's all I ask
For that quote statment ... if "coral health ultimately depends on providing the proper lighting intensity." we wouldn't need to worry about UV, IR, Spectrum and other qualities. All bulbs would give the same results as long as we had same wattage for that "proper intensity".https://www.liveaquaria.com/category/3960/metal-halide-lighting?c=3753+3754+3960
No more.. no less.. for the MOST part..
So, no crusade for any light source..
People can pick and chose to read, ignore, or bash my threads on whatever grounds they want.
I only ask they do their own due diligence.
And go where THEY want to go.. not because of person "a" or "b"'s opinion...
Which is impossible when people are whipping one side...
People need facts and history as well..but facts can be evolving all the time..
Feature Article: Light in the Reef Aquaria
Light is one of the main life-supporting resources on our planet. Being photosynthetic, many marine invertebrates require light to live; Their symbiotic zooxanthellae need light for photosynthesis to produce sufficient nourishment both for their own use and for the host coral.www.advancedaquarist.com
While a bulb's wattage and spectrum can radically change the visible appearance of your home aquarium, coral health ultimately depends on providing the proper lighting intensity.
Many are doing "just fine" with LEDs. We hear that all the time.
It is their choices to lit their tanks with whatever they see it's the best way to make a profit for their businesses. We, the consumers, should wish the best for their business so we all grow, of course. I'm not judging anyone here for choosing or applying their fixtures in order to get what they need at home nor for their businesses. Let's get that straight now!
I, and many of us, including professionals, see that metal halides are way better to grow and color corals than any LED. WWC have their own thing going there and the need for those LEDs, believe me! They are good people. I choose to believe that they still actually can't use halides because of the limit they have on electricity for their facility (I actually called them back in 2012 as well and that was the deal!).
I don't like the way the whole picture is painted though. To diminish halides and promote those Radions isn't a good thing. That's the only thing I don't agree.
I wish the best to every one that is into the coral farming business from the bottom of my heart!
Again, I posted that video just to show that back in 2012 they were really using halides to grow corals, like they told me on the phone. That's it.
Can you post some pictures here please. Thanks in advance!I can agreed to that!!!!
I can agree to that! All my sps are under halides.
Oreo, I don't think you are a bad person.6500-ish 10000K at best..
Yea an educated guess..
Certainly aren't Radium "blue bulbs".. gee why don't they use those for grow out??
Always more questions than answers.. for those that don't assume they know everything..
Now it’s your turn!Can you post some pictures here please. Thanks in advance!
Short version.. Research...Oreo, I don't think you are a bad person.
What is the real reason you come here?
I wish you the best and that you could have your own reef tank running one day.
You would understand much better than you think you know about lighting a reef tank.
I was just curious.Short version.. Research...
both practically and theoretically I have an interest in photosynthesis..and I'm behind in current "stuff"...
Matter of fact, reasonable priced LED's increased research by an order of magnitude really..
Mr. Riddles name alone brought me here..
These psssing matches on lighting.. well call that a hobby..w/ practical applications..or a study of psychology..
Like I said, I present data as I find it..really no more than that..
when someone says well you can't do that because these are magic.. well not my idea of science BUT I do understand things are different...
Why??
Very nice tank, man! What fixture/bulbs and ballasts do you run?Now it’s your turn!