Project Apex (Black Edition) by Elder1945

Discussion in 'Aquarium Controllers' started by Elder1945, Jun 15, 2017.

  1. Elder1945

    Elder1945 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Partner Member 2018 Build Thread Contributor

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    This is on there forum not R2R and is why i will stay in the safety and greatness of R2R. I should have never wondered lol
     
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    I personally did not delete anything on our forum. I am not the key moderator. That said, we do not allow threads that deal with reverse engineering, modifying the base product, etc because it quasi endorses doing things that may be unsafe and untested. I have no problem personally if you wish to create your own look. You own it. Do your thing.
     
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    Elder1945 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Partner Member 2018 Build Thread Contributor

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    Am i allowed to ask questions on Neptunes forum or is that past the "quasi" line?
     
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    Terence Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Platinum Sponsor

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    Ask away. However if you are posting images and ideas for modifying the case and asking what people think, that is probably not going to be cool. This is not something we want people doing. As it is there are many unknown factors due to how you have changed things around. Not saying it is any issue, but I would not want our customers to think it is somehow a good idea, sanctioned, or without significant risk.
     
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    Nonsense at all!!! Almost 200k potential members to admire the project and brand. Double morals interviewing lots of members with their stuff but not a dime for the advertising, trying to do something just awesome for fun, huge marketing channel for apex, they have their own "diy" chapter in their forum and just a nice comment from them then deleted. what the heck???
    Thanks @Elder1945 for his brilliant talent and awesome job, apex has no idea what they are missing here, !!!
     
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    Terence Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Platinum Sponsor

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    A clarification. I am speaking about our own company neptune systems community forum. Not reef2reef or the forums here. On R2R discuss anything you want. Our corporate forum site is different. Sorry if that was confusing.
     
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    Elder1945 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Partner Member 2018 Build Thread Contributor

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    Ok... Sorry... Ill keep this build under wraps and only share it with the few hundred thousand ppl that view this forum.

    Modding a $1000+ aquarium controller to the point of no return is never a good idea. This was just for fun on my end.. Way to rain on my fun :(. I do apologize if i stepped on some toes this was not my intention.
     
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    Elder1945 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Partner Member 2018 Build Thread Contributor

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    Yes i can see how this could be taken.. This was not the intended purpose as i am making a over the top case.. I mean its solid stainless steel LOL.

    Thank you and I thought it was good advertising for them as well. Same as my controller boards i make..
     
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    As I said. No toes stepped on. No worries. Mod away. Do realize though that it is more than just painting the case. Both the choice of enclosure material as well as the arrangement of the boards and using ribbon cables could lead to problems for you or other users - especially if they did not have your skills.

    But seriously I personally have no problem at all with this thread or what you are undertaking.
     
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    Pretty sure customer service people and the lawyers over at Neptune wouldn't agree. This is the one time I can honesty see their point of view, and semi- agree with Neptune, as not many living on this water filled rock have your talent with these things. People will try and copy, ultimately fail, if its on their website, there maybe some liabilities???

    Now more time to spend building my GHL cabinetry !
     
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    Elder1945 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Partner Member 2018 Build Thread Contributor

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    I get that... Just disheartening when the first feedback from Neptune on this project is deleting my thead on Neptunes "Corporate" fourm. A simple warning as stated above would probably done wonders. Or just a mod msging me first explaining to me what is going on. That would of gone a long way.

    I guess i should have realized this was a no no for the neptune community to see. I get it though :).
     
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    Elder1945 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Partner Member 2018 Build Thread Contributor

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    I can see it as well... just never crossed my mind tbh. Just frustrating as this was supposed to be fun.

    I was about to start a build with the ghl controller.. I must admit i love mine.
     
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    We have no issues with just keeping it home at R2R.
     
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    These are 3d printed parts?
     
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    I got threatened by the Zippo corporation a few years ago for making leather cases that were nicer than theirs and I used the word zippo in the adverts! ;)
     
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    Elder if this works I would love to buy one as I don't like the look of the new apex and if it crashes my system well it's done that in its original casing so nbd.

    I get apex side I get ur side and agree they should have sent u some clarification instead of yoinkimg it down I mean if someone was like o let me do this because he did without realizing the potential problems well then maby they shoudnt be looking at how to make the apex look good but please don't stop having fun because of them. They want u to be control freaks but only with what they let you control.

    I enjoy ur diy skills and wish I had the time and money to do what u do with everything you touch because it is amazing truly amazing I mean u made the new apex look good that's a tough task to undertake. Thank you and please keep having fun
     
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    Elder.
    in reality "creativity" is something that most companies "Neptune" included HATE so much when it comes to things they create.
    specially when the look of their APEX was so much put to sword by people who saw it.

    being skillful in DIY makes you a dangerous creature to these people, you show off and shine in a spot they can't even come close to. that's why they will always rather "delete" instead of talking and make their point of view open to public and clarify the reasoning for such action, and maybe making it public to whoever see's the threat and the work you are doing and making sure they are advising against it for all the reason's they want to say.

    in the end DON'T STOP, ever on doing creative things and showing off your skills and great imagination in creating things that both amaze us and makes us feel a joyful happiness about a project that not even ours :)
     
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    This ofcorse is wy they ditched your thead. I agree the case is lame, rack mounted hwd / profiles is tried and true space saving and efficient
     
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    Elder1945 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Partner Member 2018 Build Thread Contributor

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    Yea, I think I will stay here and will endorse people to move away from other forums.

    Nope all CNC as of now....

    Thank you! I am going to re make the port plate to read "Control Freak but only on things we ok" LOL..

    Yea to companys like Neptune I get ZERO appreciation but on the other hand companys like GHL, Vertex, Orphek, Tunze and quite a few more actualy support what i do. Even to the point of helping me behind the scenes. I guess when your projects are taking over google analytics Companys jump on board.. I mean my last interview i did on my old tank only has 200k + views on youtube....... I have never understood Neptune in this regard. Each there own though.

    Yes, I agree i am going to think about what my future is going to be working on Apex related things. I have quite a few builds in mind but see no personal need to support a company that does not support me. To many other companys in this industry have a open mind and are "cool" and "hip" LOL.
     
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    You should just do what you do, cause you like to do it. Your really good at what you do. Do you really need a ,"good job" from Neptune?

    I'm just Dan. But Good job!!!
     
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