Question About Privacy At R2R

[Reefering1]

But in your scenario that driver DID break the law, and SHOULD get a ticket. I'm not a lawyer, but "I didn't know it was illegal" is not a defense. Just because someone doesn't want to break the law, doesn't mean they are not.

In FL, this would be a exact definition of the "no contest" plea. Guilty, albeit ignorantly.

 

[Mschmidt]

The key term here is “large quantities”

and not the "improper means"? I see what bean animal is saying, that if the email sbb sent was illegal, they are likely not worth the time or effort. Is "large quantities" speaking of the volume to one person, or can it include one email to many, many people?
would then the "improper means" fall under an antihacking or data privacy law somewhere else?

 

[Fish Fan]

In FL, this would be a exact definition of the "no contest" plea. Guilty, albeit ignorantly.

Exactly!

 

[FUNGI]

But in your scenario that driver DID break the law, and SHOULD get a ticket. I'm not a lawyer, but "I didn't know it was illegal" is not a defense. Just because someone doesn't want to break the law, doesn't mean they are not.


Marketing emails do need to have a physical address, even if it's a PO box.


No offense taken. But this thread had NOTHING to do with the gift card at all. And not for nothing, but you're still here, 12 pages later :)

You are correct.....Forgot about that as its been some years since I was doing emailsand we always defaulted to PO Box.....

 

[BeanAnimal]

But in your scenario that driver DID break the law, and SHOULD get a ticket. I'm not a lawyer, but "I didn't know it was illegal" is not a defense. Just because someone doesn't want to break the law, doesn't mean they are not.

I said they broke the law and technically deserve a ticket. The bigger picture is that they are not the problem, even if it is bothersome :)

 

[FUNGI]

so...takeaway here is don't enter for a chance to win unless you want your email address given out I guess.....

 

[Fish Fan]

so...takeaway here is don't enter for a chance to win unless you want your email address given out I guess.....

Please read page 1 again, you're missing the whole point. I did not sign up for the give-a-way.

 

[FUNGI]

Please read page 1 again, you're missing the whole point. I did not sign up for the give-a-way.

I know the story.....I was reply #4.....LOL

 

[Fish Fan]

I said they broke the law and technically deserve a ticket. The bigger picture is that they are not the problem, even if it is bothersome :)

I get what you're saying I do, I'm not being argumentative. But if that driver is not a problem, the law wouldn't even exist. It's a problem, that's why it's against the law. Is it murder? Certainly not, but I don't think you can just ignore a law because it's seemingly not a problem.

 

[BeanAnimal]

I get what you're saying I do, I'm not being argumentative. But if that driver is not a problem, the law wouldn't even exist. It's a problem, that's why it's against the law. Is it murder? Certainly not, but I don't think you can just ignore a law because it's seemingly not a problem.

Then every one of us should be in jail or fined for one thing or another ;)

 

[Fish Fan]

I know the story.....I was reply #4.....LOL

Yes, and you seemed to think that somehow I gave out my email address. I did not, nor did I enter this contest in the first place. The gift had nothing to do with my post here at all.

 

[Fish Fan]

Then every one of us should be in jail or fined for one thing or another ;)

Has not everyone of us had a traffic ticket? From time to time, they will get you. That's what keeps people from just ignoring a law altogether.

 

[VintageReefer]

and not the "improper means"? I see what bean animal is saying, that if the email sbb sent was illegal, they are likely not worth the time or effort. Is "large quantities" speaking of the volume to one person, or can it include one email to many, many people?
would then the "improper means" fall under an antihacking or data privacy law somewhere else?

I suggest reading the entire law and not the snippet posted. I don’t feel this applies at all

(2) Requirements​

In carrying out this subsection, the Sentencing Commission shall consider providing sentencing enhancements for-

(A) those convicted under section 1037 of title 18 who-

Pause - to have this be applicable the offender needs to be convicted of 1037 title 18, a fraud crime

(i) obtained electronic mail addresses through improper means, including-

(I) harvesting electronic mail addresses of the users of a website, proprietary service, or other online public forum operated by another person, without the authorization of such person; and

(II) randomly generating electronic mail addresses by computer; or


(ii) knew that the commercial electronic mail messages involved in the offense contained or advertised an Internet domain for which the registrant of the domain had provided false registration information; and


Pause here - you need 1 AND II or
1 AND ii

(B) those convicted of other offenses, including offenses involving fraud, identity theft, obscenity, child pornography, and the sexual exploitation of children, if such offenses involved the sending of large quantities of electronic mail.


This law seems to be a additional thing they tack on in cases where there is a fraud crime being committed.

None of this is applicable in any way in this situation

 

[FUNGI]

Yes, and you seemed to think that somehow I gave out my email address. I did not, nor did I enter this contest in the first place. The gift had nothing to do with my post here at all.

...and I was incorrect in my initial thought that somehow you gave away your email......you win.
I will now go away and help someone who wants to put live rock in a trashbin and create a cryptic zone......

 

[Fish Fan]

...and I was incorrect in my initial thought that somehow you gave away your email......you win.
I will now go away and help someone who wants to put live rock in a trashbin and create a cryptic zone......

I've been wanting to look at that thread lol!

There's no contest here, I was just telling my story :)

 

[FUNGI]

I've been wanting to look at that thread lol!

There's no contest here, I was just telling my story :)

BTW....did you see this:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/t...-in-prizes-from-algaebarn-11-winners.1082758/

 

[FUNGI]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[VintageReefer]

Yes, and you seemed to think that somehow I gave out my email address. I did not, nor did I enter this contest in the first place. The gift had nothing to do with my post here at all.

Was posting in the thread considered “entering the contest” ?

Then completely separate and unrelated - visiting the website generated the email

 

[Reefering1]

but I don't think you can just ignore a law because it's seemingly not a problem.

Well actually, that's called a "merge and dismiss". where they might drop several lesser charges and only pursue the main infraction. Beat that one charge and all are dropped.

 

[Reefering1]

Then every one of us should be in jail or fined for one thing or another ;)

Wait, everyone hasn't? :oops: